Russian invasion of Ukraine

mackenzie said:
Thanks ;-) Catching up on the situation at the end of the working day is a headache in itself, so thanks for the summary.
Apparently they still have quite a few bunkers in Jihlava (left over from their communist days, ironically) so not all lost ;-)
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The Czechs will be a lot safer than the Brits even if anything did really kick off. Which it very likely won’t.
 
Sir peace frog said:
Haha, we've all woke up with "the dread"
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If I get really pissed I always write a long note to myself as I go to bed detailing what the situation was when I went upstairs and put it in the same place. When I get up in the morning I can read it and reassure myself that I didn't take an axe to next doors cat (or whatever).
 
meltonblue said:
Probably more for the politics forum, but the home office response has been really disappointing. Thought Patel was awful today.
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That’s not really news she’s fucking awful everyday. It would be wrong for her to suddenly become competent just because some egotistical tossed starts to chuck the n word round.
 
mackenzie said:
My lad in the Czech Republic (area called Jihlava) said many of his friends there are unable to access their bank accounts now as they are with a Russian bank. I said that's still better than being a Ukranian at this time. Said Czechs have also received instructions on what to do in a nuclear attack.
I can hardly concentrate at work now, everything seems so petty and ridiculous, and I've had a stress headache since Putin said the word "nuclear" yesterday.
I've told my son I want him to come home if shit gets real, but I know he won't because his daughter is also in Czech.
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In all honesty your lad is as safe from a nuclear attack in the Czech Republic as you are in the UK, in fact I'd say the UK is a bigger target.

I understand your worries though as I'm also away from my family and its not nice in these times so best wishes to you.
 



Minister of defence for Ukraine offering amnesty and a cash reward to Russian soldiers for giving themselves up and not following orders.
 
hello said:
That’s not really news she’s fucking awful everyday. It would be wrong for her to suddenly become competent just because some egotistical tossed starts to chuck the n word round.
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It takes a lot to still be that way when literally the whole world is beating a different drum though.
 
Marco Rubio on Twitter I cant embed tweets so copied: Growing signs #Putin has ordered a medieval siege of #Kyiv Cut a city of millions off from food, fuel, power, communications & supplies & then bomb & starve the govt into submission We need to start thinking about what we can & are willing to do to prevent such a barbaric crime
 
DrBlueBob said:
If you are ever in a position to have to worry about being able to run three miles in four minutes I can help to allay your fears; you can't. :-)
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DrBlueBob said:
If you are ever in a position to have to worry about being able to run three miles in four minutes I can help to allay your fears; you can't. :-)
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bluebaja said:
If I get really pissed I always write a long note to myself as I go to bed detailing what the situation was when I went upstairs and put it in the same place. When I get up in the morning I can read it and reassure myself that I didn't take an axe to next doors cat (or whatever).
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You can write when ur pissed??!! :-)
 
domalino said:
Oligarch's have $80m yachts not $8m ones.

He's just some rich Russian, he won't be on any of the sanctions lists for individuals.
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"A Ukrainian sailor has admitted trying to sink a yacht owned by the head of a Russian state arms firm"

I Don't care. Sieze it. Sell it. Give the money to Ukraine.
 
wayne71 said:
In all honesty your lad is as safe from a nuclear attack in the Czech Republic as you are in the UK, in fact I'd say the UK is a bigger target.

I understand your worries though as I'm also away from my family and its not nice in these times so best wishes to you.
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That actually makes me feel a bit better.
Thank you, and best wishes to you and your family too.
I can't imagine how separated families cope in a war. The "not knowing" and not having those you love near to you must be incredibly stressful. I'm not talking about families who have an armed forces serving relation (after all, it must be expected in a way), more the civilians
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I remember in the early 80s as a kid hearing the air raid sirens regularly being tested in the event of a nuclear attack.

It was terrifying to hear and I would have terrible dreams of me being stuck at school and whether I could run the three miles from to home in four minutes and get to say goodbye to my folks.

Stupid, I know. Goodness knows how the people of Ukraine deal with this very real nightmare.
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Yep always heard them growing up living in Clayton. Regularly tested them
 
Blue warrior said:
Marco Rubio on Twitter I cant embed tweets so copied: Growing signs #Putin has ordered a medieval siege of #Kyiv Cut a city of millions off from food, fuel, power, communications & supplies & then bomb & starve the govt into submission We need to start thinking about what we can & are willing to do to prevent such a barbaric crime
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Easy, Berlin Airlift.

Okay so not easy, but a solution that worked in the past. The Russians won't be stupid enough to attack NATO aircraft bringing in supplies.
 
This is UK Forces News......




They're saying what everyone else seems to be saying, that Putin expected Ukraine to surrender in shock and awe within 24 hours or so of the invasion, when that didn't happen the Russians ran in to operational and supply problems.

But and it's a big but, they don't hold out hope for a Ukrainian victory.

Putin can have his victory, but only at a much higher price than he anticipated, will he pay that price? Time for diplomacy and an honest broker and fast.
 
Chippy_boy said:
You're dreaming mate. At least I hope so, because any nuclear retaliation from the UK - or the US or France or whovever - against Russia, and it's the end of the world as we know it.

We'd have very little (if any?) ability to intercept a nuke launched towards us from western Russia, and were that to happen - with a nuke aimed at the North Sea - the very best thing that could happen would be that we did nothing. Anything else would - literally - be suicide.
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If NATO cold war doctrine is followed we'd drop a nuke in the Barents Sea or similar.
 
A lot of talk that Putin had priced in sanctions before the invasion but I don't think he banked on the sanctions being as ferocious as they are. Shell have just announced they are selling their stakes in Russian ventures, I don't Vlad anticipated that at all.

Problem is, the harder we hit, the more he starts lashing out which is why I just can't see a positive endgame without the Russians themselves over throwing him.
 
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