Russian invasion of Ukraine

bluevillain said:
He likes pointing his finger at little old UK.
Puts his nukes on alert after Truss bad mouthed him.
Now sanctions are tantamount to a war declaration.
Must be some methodology to singling us out.
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Point his little finger all he wants, but I bet he would love an army, although much smaller, as brave and as well organised as ours.
 
Ric said:
Surely though there are legitimate concerns about Russian influence in our political system, particularly within the Conservative party and the current Prime Minister?
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Totally agree but I’m of the opinion we have a myriad of threads in which to discuss them rather than this one.

Brexit, party donations, political influence are worthy topics in the political forum but this thread should be free of the usual circular arguments.
 
Ric said:
Surely though there are legitimate concerns about Russian influence in our political system, particularly within the Conservative party and the current Prime Minister?
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I think there's very much two angles with this.

Yes, absolutely we should look at Russian influence in our politics, and root out every bad apple. Left and right.

But then there has been many examples of those who have used this purely as a point scoring exercise. I'm a fucking lefty, I can't stand the conservatives, and I'm against a lot of what capitalism is. However there's been a lot that have blamed everything on the west & western values, just like those on the right that have blamed everything on us becoming too liberal as a society, & allowing Putin the chance to grow. As opposed to the true cause of this, which is one fucking **** that wants to fulfil his "destiny" by any means necessary, no matter the cost.
 
BringBackSwales said:
I repeat, their own minister for the economy and climate said they could, including using stocks and buying gas and coal from other sources. Just that it would cost more. So what price the devastation and destruction of Ukraine?
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I understand you're fuming, but our old philosophy "Wandel durch Handel" (=change by trade) towards Russia has been blown up by that war criminal within the last weeks and we can't change that quick. (We have sold our values in greed, like most other nations sadly do).
Buying at spot market prizes would be mad, and sanctions woul hit us more than Russia.
But our policy is in full swing. 1 month back most of these changes were unimaginable.
 
St.Pauli support said:
I understand you're fuming, but our old philosophy "Wandel durch Handel" (=change by trade) towards Russia has been blown up by that war criminal within the last weeks and we can't change that quick. (We have sold our values in greed, like most other nations sadly do).
Buying at spot market prizes would be mad, and sanctions woul hit us more than Russia.
But our policy is in full swing. 1 month back most of these changes were unimaginable.
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2 weeks back the destruction of a 45 million population country in front of our eyes was equally unimaginable
 
Ric said:
Surely though there are legitimate concerns about Russian influence in our political system, particularly within the Conservative party and the current Prime Minister?
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Who would you back in a time of crisis. The fat lying buffoon or the false Messiah (the communist previously known as the next prime minister) ?
 
blueinsa said:
Totally agree but I’m of the opinion we have a myriad of threads in which to discuss them rather than this one.

Brexit, party donations, political influence are worthy topics in the political forum but this thread should be free of the usual circular arguments.
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Agreed.
I’ve tried and not always succeeded to put my criticisms of the government on the politics threads. As a nation we’re simply not that important in this conflict when compared to the neighbouring countries, the US, the EU, China and NATO so blowing our own trumpet and criticising allies just looks a bit pathetic when the focus should be on what we can do to help Ukraine and help the overall effort to defeat Russia.
 
Scottyboi said:
Well I know where my next holiday is then.
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In reply to......"Economies also existed, and continue to exist in some parts of the world, where a fair trade could be for example a turnip in exchange for a shag of the family goat."



A quick view of Scottyboi's garden.
 

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JRockBlues said:
I lightheartedly said the following throwaway comment the other day and I'm starting to think there might even be a little truth to it now with his latest utterances:

"I think Putin has been diagnosed with a terminal illness and just wants to take the rest of the world with him."
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bluethrunthru said:
The only person about whom I would say on reading this headline " I fucking hope so "

www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk

Daily Star Sunday Front Page 6th of March 2022 - Tomorrow's Papers Today!

The Daily Star Sunday cites US and UK spies as saying that the Russian president has bowel cancer.
www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk
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I hate to say I told you so...
 
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