Mary Ds / trouble at The Townley

Eccles Blue said:
I think this might be one of the quarters you are referring to @M18CTID

I know I’m old and a woman but I just do not understand the ‘unwritten code of conduct where attacks on innocent fans are strictly off limits’ why would anyone go out looking for a fight? Why would anyone go out looking to possibly get injured themselves? Why, just why?
I saw it in the past and just couldn’t understand it then, I see it now and understand it even less. We know more about what sort of injuries can be inflicted.

I’m sorry can anyone explain to me why people would go looking for this kind of trouble?
I’m not lumping you in with that mentality @M18CTID just asking the questions generally.
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It runs a lot deeper than many people realise. Too many people simplistically say it’s dick heads out to cause trouble because they don’t know how to behave, and while that is very true for a lot of them, there are other things that go with it.

Firstly, homosapiens are genetically violent fighting animals. We are also genetically fiercely competitive. We are also genetically fiercely territorial and tribal. You’re as big a blue as anyone on here, making you a very tribal person, you just don’t go out throwing punches at the other tribes (that we know of EB haha!)

Some people treat getting hurt in a fight in the same way that people who self harm by cutting themselves, whipping themselves etc. do. It’s a psychological disorder.

Some people are evil cunts and enjoy inflicting pain on others. Also a psychological disorder.

Some people just enjoy fighting and get a buzz out of it, and there’s nothing up with that as long as they do it with likeminded people. There are sports that allow people to do this, but I suppose some people aren’t dedicated enough to do the training for the sport and just do it as a leisure activity.

There are many reason why people might do it, but I think we are a species that will always do it generation-after-generation.
 
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jrb said:
If yesterday is anything to go by the MIB's have gone up another Hooligan level. Now wearing balaclavas like the Russian and Eastern European Ultras. We've all seen it kick off between club fans in England, but I've never seen fans fighting each other openly wearing balaclavas before.
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So they can't be recognised on CCTV..the shithouses
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
It runs a lot deeper than many people realise. Too many people simplistically say it’s dick heads out to cause trouble because they don’t know how to behave, and while that is very true for a lot of them, there are other things that go with it.

Firstly, homosapiens are genetically violent fighting animals. We are also genetically fiercely competitive. We are also genetically fiercely territorial and tribal. You’re as big a blue as anyone on here, making you a very tribal person, you just don’t go out throwing punches at the other tribes (that we know of EB haha!)

Some people treat getting hurt in a fight in the same way that people who self harm by cutting themselves, whipping themselves etc. do. It’s a psychological disorder.

Some people are evil cunts and enjoy inflicting pain on others. Also a psychological disorder.

Some people just enjoy fighting and get a buzz out of it, and there’s nothing up with that as long as they do it with likeminded people. There are sports that allow people to do this, but I suppose some people aren’t dedicated enough to do the training for the sport and just do it as a leisure activity.

There are many reason why people might do it, but I think we are a species that will always do it generation-after-generation.
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Can only speak for myself but when I got involved once or twice it was because I fucking hate the Rag cunts and saw them turning up trying to take liberties on our patch. It was down to tribalism and anger towards them.

I haven’t for a long time, mostly because I’m nowhere near physically capable these days but that was my mindset back then.
 
Manc in London said:
A lot of rancid United fans around on that day.

A mate, who I went to the game with, was wearing his 1998 shirt with no jacket. He was desperate to go to the game via Wembley Park tub. That was a rough walk to the stadium :)

No trouble after the game for us as they had all gone by the time we left the stadium.
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We came across a Group of about 20 of the Feral twats on the way to the Tube after the game with all the usual posturing etc and as a few of them came over in our direction some Blue close by suddenly started lecturing them how Pathetic they looked threatening families and the like —and they literally melted away heads bowed -mouthing off a bit granted but it was as if the Guy had hit a Raw Nerve
 
krswanny said:
I am not sure if I am the older fella (56) or not but me and my son were walking down the path to the Townley to meet mates when the shithouses came from a side entrance and said "are you City", what all two of us?.

I have a broken jaw but my son fell, hit his head on the floor and was knocked out.

It was the scariest few minutes of my life as it seemed like an eternity before he came round.

Thankfully he seems to be ok but has been kept in hospital for observation.

I didn't think it was possible but I fuckin hate the red bastards even more today than yesterday.
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Sorry to hear about that blue,total shithouse cunts,hope your son okay an urself,total cowards need a fuckin good hidin
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
It runs a lot deeper than many people realise. Too many people simplistically say it’s dick heads out to cause trouble because they don’t know how to behave, and while that is very true for a lot of them, there are other things that go with it.

Firstly, homosapiens are genetically violent fighting animals. We are also genetically fiercely competitive. We are also genetically fiercely territorial and tribal. You’re as big a blue as anyone on here, making you a very tribal person, you just don’t go out throwing punches at the other tribes (that we know of EB haha!)

Some people treat getting hurt in a fight in the same way that people who self harm by cutting themselves, whipping themselves etc. do. It’s a psychological disorder.

Some people are evil cunts and enjoy inflicting pain on others. Also a psychological disorder.

Some people just enjoy fighting and get a buzz out of it, and there’s nothing up with that as long as they do it with likeminded people. There are sports that allow people to do this, but I suppose some people aren’t dedicated enough to do the training for the sport and just do it as a leisure activity.

There are many reason why people might do it, but I think we are a species that will always do it generation-after-generation.
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It’s nothing new either in these Islands. In Medieval times the Market for Mercenaries at Valenciennes was stuffed full of Scots and English and this was the last place your Roman Legionnaire would want to be Stationed.
 
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:
I know a lot of people involved in the fighting in the 80s and they told me the buzz they got out of it and I was never an angel in my teens in normal life

But for the life of me I just don’t understand the need for someone to kick fuck out of others because of the team they support

As much as I hate the Rags, dippers etc I couldn’t go out of my way to twat them
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The 70/s 80/s was a different ball game my friend you had to have numbers you would have got cut up, the pussy mibs today would be on there mums knee’s breastfeeding if they were around back then
 
jrb said:
Not sure. Probably about 3.30pm. Can’t be accurate.

The MIB’s came down Hinckley Street. The Police blocked them off at the bottom of Hinckley Street, opposite the Townley, and pushed them back down Hinckley Street. At the same time they surrounded the Townley and blocked off the City fans from crossing the road.

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The MIB’s then ran down Hinckley Street, did a left, and cut through the park, coming out on to Albert Street. The Police moved over, blocked them off, kept City fans back, and pushed the MIB’s further down Albert Street.

The MIB’s then ran down Pilgrim Drive, into the estate, regrouped, made their way through the estate, got to the ginnel, and tried to attack the City fans outside the Townley from the ginnel. Couldn’t see what exactly happened, but I could see loads plastic pint pots and beer flying over the fence. Sure the Police would have piled into the MIB’s as well.

The MIB’s then ran back up the ginnel, did a left, ran through the estate, and made their way to the corner shop and attacked it.

On Serious note. If you about think what the MIB’s did, attacking 2 seperate pubs, regrouping, having a free run of 2 separate estates, it was a poor show from GMP, considering they were tracking the MIB’s, had spotters out, and had numerous officers on foot, on horses, and in vans all around the area.

I’d say there was 30-40 MIB’s max. Quite a few scrotes, along with some proper heads. It wouldn’t have been too much trouble to corral the MIB’s on Hinckley Street and march them out of the area. We‘re not talking 100’s of United’s hardened MIB’s/Hooligans.
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My lad and me were lucky to have missed all this yesterday, seems by minutes. We park on Rylance St just down from the Corner Shop pub. Walked up there and past it just after 3:30 but all we saw were police vans speeding up Albert St, chasing shadows. Then on Ashton New Rd about 20 in riot gear all stood doing nothing. Thought they were just their in case it kicked off but seems like they were in the wrong place .... again !
 
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A few seasons back i was drinking with a few bluemooners in the Grey Horse after the Burnley game. I got pissed and fell asleep(in there) and when I woke up i realised the lads had gone but i was surrounded by about 10 mibs who had been to Chelsea.

They soon sussed i was a blue and started taking the piss in a patronising way. I said to the gobbiest one to pipe down or I'd twat him. He looked a bit taken aback and started getting giddy that a lone blue had had the bottle to stand up to him. His right hand man looked of a handy **** so i looked at him and told him if he started he'd get a smack too and i could see in his eyes he was only hame because he had back up. I said I'd probably get battered but id hurt a few going down fighting

By this time i realised the Dutch courage was wearing a bit thin and my arse started twitching as i was the only blue still in the pub. I managed to keep my calm and look them in the eye and the 'leader' piped up - "you're not bad for a blue bastard I suppose!" I told him i was just having a quiet drink but wasn't going to be bullied because i was on my own. He offered me a drink but i told him to fuck off before drinking up for the last train home. If i hadn't shown bravado I'd have definitely got a good hiding from them.

@krswanny I wish you and your lad a speedy recovery pal. I just hope they get a bit of bad karma for what the cowardly cunts did.
 
Indaparkside said:
The 70/s 80/s was a different ball game my friend you had to have numbers you would have got cut up, the pussy mibs today would be on there mums knee’s breastfeeding if they were around back then
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We always had the numbers but can’t remember people getting a slap who wasn’t looking for a slap

loved the 80s for the banter and never got involved with any mither

these days it’s as though being a bully and posting it online means your a somebody

fucking hard picking on a bloke with his son
 
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:
We always had the numbers but can’t remember people getting a slap who wasn’t looking for a slap

loved the 80s for the banter and never got involved with any mither

these days it’s as though being a bully and posting it online means your a somebody

fucking hard picking on a bloke with his son
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ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:
We always had the numbers but can’t remember people getting a slap who wasn’t looking for a slap

loved the 80s for the banter and never got involved with any mither

these days it’s as though being a bully and posting it online means your a somebody

fucking hard picking on a bloke with his son
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You quoted the 80’s and trouble I was just stating it was a lot worse back then, as for you have never seen anyone get a slap who wasn’t looking for it you must have walked around with your eyes shut, happened at Maine road often every club has wankers and unfortunately football violence will be around for ever
 
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:
We always had the numbers but can’t remember people getting a slap who wasn’t looking for a slap

loved the 80s for the banter and never got involved with any mither

these days it’s as though being a bully and posting it online means your a somebody

fucking hard picking on a bloke with his son
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I never looked for or wanted trouble. I still got battered by loads of scouse cunts at home and chased around stoke town centre in my younger days. Absolute shite that the fighters only wanted to fight with each other back in the day. Cunts are cunts.
 
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