Media Thread - 2021/22

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ctwrd said:
Can someone explain what is Wrong with UAE?

“Human rights”. The migrants don’t have to go and work there.

lot of moral outrage at 81 executions yesterday in Saudi Arabia but they have the death penalty and some people would bring that back here. The executed were apparently all terrorists. These football journalists have effectively decided that death penalty is wrong. Tell that to the US.
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This, USA 5th highest number of executions in 2020 according to the BBC but nothing said against American owners still
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
If Wigmore was a credible journalist he might have asked himself a question: "Why did the UAE and India abstain in the first vote?" According to the (usually credible source) Bloomberg it was to encourage a diplomatic solution, presumably involving India and China who also abstained, which many experts believe is the way forward to prevent World War 3.

www.bloombergquint.com

UAE Abstained in UN Vote on Ukraine to Put Emphasis on Diplomacy

UAE Abstained in UN Vote on Ukraine to Put Emphasis on Diplomacy
www.bloombergquint.com www.bloombergquint.com
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ctwrd said:
Can someone explain what is Wrong with UAE?

“Human rights”. The migrants don’t have to go and work there.

lot of moral outrage at 81 executions yesterday in Saudi Arabia but they have the death penalty and some people would bring that back here. The executed were apparently all terrorists. These football journalists have effectively decided that death penalty is wrong. Tell that to the US.
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Sets a narrative with an out of context tweet! they tweet with no research! One person tweets about the 81 executions without any context its repeated by sheep even talkshite mentioned it after saying we don’t really won’t to talk about it most people don’t want to hear it but yeah let’s talk about it.
 
ctwrd said:
Can someone explain what is Wrong with UAE?

“Human rights”. The migrants don’t have to go and work there.

lot of moral outrage at 81 executions yesterday in Saudi Arabia but they have the death penalty and some people would bring that back here. The executed were apparently all terrorists. These football journalists have effectively decided that death penalty is wrong. Tell that to the US.
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Because it's fuck all to do with any genuine human rights crusade (apt), and everything to do with the likes of utd, arse and liverpool owners and fans not liking competition, on or off the pitch.
 
johnevans said:
What splendid memories this evokes! And by heck, didn't they all look bonny lined up in their blazers with the club badges, all full of their own self-importance?! Halcyon days indeed!

(..as the Old Man would often say when seeing these crooks preening on tv or in the press - 'I wouldn't trust those bl**ders as far as I could throw them.. they're all bent as nine bob notes')
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Who was it in his biography had a chapter about football chairmen/directors that was just a blank page? Cloughie? Joseph Holt has dimmed the memories somewhat these days.
 
ctwrd said:
Can someone explain what is Wrong with UAE?

“Human rights”. The migrants don’t have to go and work there.

lot of moral outrage at 81 executions yesterday in Saudi Arabia but they have the death penalty and some people would bring that back here. The executed were apparently all terrorists. These football journalists have effectively decided that death penalty is wrong. Tell that to the US.
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"The migrants don't have to go go and work there." How the fuck do you know the migrants circumstances?"

The 81 people executed were "apparently all terrorists". Including the lad (17 at the time of the alleged offence - under the age of legal responsibility in Saudi) who was prosecuted for a photo in his phone.

When the Russians start executing Ukrainian "convicted terrorists", what will your position be? Telling that to the US?
 
Idesofmarch69 said:
"The migrants don't have to go go and work there." How the fuck do you know the migrants circumstances?"

The 81 people executed were "apparently all terrorists". Including the lad (17 at the time of the alleged offence - under the age of legal responsibility in Saudi) who was prosecuted for a photo in his phone.

When the Russians start executing Ukrainian "convicted terrorists", what will your position be? Telling that to the US?
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False equivalence.

We are too soft in this country so who are we to judge?
 
ctwrd said:
Can someone explain what is Wrong with UAE?

“Human rights”. The migrants don’t have to go and work there.

lot of moral outrage at 81 executions yesterday in Saudi Arabia but they have the death penalty and some people would bring that back here. The executed were apparently all terrorists. These football journalists have effectively decided that death penalty is wrong. Tell that to the US.
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Briefly, the UAE used to have a pretty repressive regime for migrant workers. For example, once you were contracted the employer could demand any hours of work they wished. Employers held your passport which meant you couldn't go and work for someone else or leave the country without the employers permission.
Both of these rules were changed in a labour act in about 2017. So, a gov office holds your passport and you apply for an exit visa which is automatically granted provided you have no debts and are not wanted by the police. Working hours are protected, though with some leeway for the employer to insist on overtime. One big issue was workers signed up while still in their native land and then found on arrival that the contract was completely different. This is now illegal under the labour act. So, while conditions are still not ideal, they have improved greatly in recent years.
PS The UAE hardly ever executes anybody.
 
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