The Conservative Party

Aba452 said:
Was just thinking what happened to Rory Stewart? Looked him up was pro remain, tried to steer the cons to a "moderate" brexit deal. That didn't happen!

He stated he wouldn't serve in Johnson, and resigned from the government. He voted with labour for staying in the customs union, an action for which he was expelled from the cons. He stood down as an MP in 2019. Now lecturing on international relations at Yale.

The guy might have gnashers that would give even klopp nightmares (!) but imo I think he always came across as essentially decent. Compare him with some of the odious twats now in government. Much as I disliked her, with the benefit of hindsight, Theresa May at least functioned as a leader, who could speak with gravitas. She also spoke out against Russian infiltration of British institutions. However she was fatally compromised by the everarching need to keep the cons united, to the detriment of the national interest.

Politics, like football journalism, has become incredibly polarised, based on who's got the best soundbites on the evening news. This government has staggered punch drunk from one crisis to the next, full of bluster and empty promises. Where the fuck have the opposition been?????

The country and the world all seem to be lurching inexorably to the right. I'm ashamed that as a nation we have made in incredibly difficult for refugees from fucking warzones to seek sanctuary here.

We've been played big style by the Russians, isolated and irrelevant. I thought at the time of the brexit vote that we needed a government of national unity. I think that's needed n of w more than ever, perhaps as a prelude to full transparency on the machinery of politics and how it's funded. It would be nice to believe there are sensible politicians who are prepared to work together in the country's need.

Otherwise we really will be a small island off the coast of Europe, living off past glories, a nation of haves and have-nots, a very disunited kingdom.
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All the sensible Tories were hounded out of the party because of their Brexit position. That’s why we have a cabinet full of lightweights and morons.
 
NJ Blue said:
Conservatives guarantee loans of £50 million of taxpayers money to Russian oligarchs.

t.co

UK taxpayer potentially on hook for £50mn in Russian loan guarantees

The two most recent purchases using government support were by billionaire Andrey Melnichenko’s Suek group
t.co t.co
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there was a time.....oooooo....probably a month ago .... where it was all about saving Johnson - the Tory Party is fast realising that their Russian dodgy money collusion is more of a threat and Johnson can be left dead in a ditch if it comes to it as long as the party survives.......

Latest failed deflection is the news that dickpics on social media are being out lawed - turns out Johnson putting KGB agents in the Lords is a bigger story - fancy......
 
In light of what we now know about the existence of brexit and who was behind it and why, perhaps we can now stop accusing brexiteers of ‘not knowing what they voted for’ and instead agree that ’they didn’t know that this is what they voted for’.
As long as they are prepared to admit it.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
In light of what we now know about the existence of brexit and who was behind it and why, perhaps we can now stop accusing brexiteers of ‘not knowing what they voted for’ and instead agree that ’they didn’t know that this is what they voted for’.
As long as they are prepared to admit it.
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Not many will. Nor that Russia wanted it. Even the "balance-neutered" BBC told them. They didn't perhaps know that UKIP was full of Russian assets (Banks particularly).

www.bbc.co.uk

EU referendum: Would Brexit make Putin happy?

After the souring of EU-Russia ties some experts say Brexit would help President Putin, as Steve Rosenberg reports from Moscow.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
I am guessing that any decent journalist could fact check this and shred Brandon Lewis' claim in a matter of minutes.....

 
Aba452 said:
Was just thinking what happened to Rory Stewart? Looked him up was pro remain, tried to steer the cons to a "moderate" brexit deal. That didn't happen!

He stated he wouldn't serve in Johnson, and resigned from the government. He voted with labour for staying in the customs union, an action for which he was expelled from the cons. He stood down as an MP in 2019. Now lecturing on international relations at Yale.

The guy might have gnashers that would give even klopp nightmares (!) but imo I think he always came across as essentially decent. Compare him with some of the odious twats now in government. Much as I disliked her, with the benefit of hindsight, Theresa May at least functioned as a leader, who could speak with gravitas. She also spoke out against Russian infiltration of British institutions. However she was fatally compromised by the everarching need to keep the cons united, to the detriment of the national interest.

Politics, like football journalism, has become incredibly polarised, based on who's got the best soundbites on the evening news. This government has staggered punch drunk from one crisis to the next, full of bluster and empty promises. Where the fuck have the opposition been?????

The country and the world all seem to be lurching inexorably to the right. I'm ashamed that as a nation we have made in incredibly difficult for refugees from fucking warzones to seek sanctuary here.

We've been played big style by the Russians, isolated and irrelevant. I thought at the time of the brexit vote that we needed a government of national unity. I think that's needed n of w more than ever, perhaps as a prelude to full transparency on the machinery of politics and how it's funded. It would be nice to believe there are sensible politicians who are prepared to work together in the country's need.

Otherwise we really will be a small island off the coast of Europe, living off past glories, a nation of haves and have-nots, a very disunited kingdom.
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It was what he voted for, and what he voted against, that marks him as a dyed-in-the-wool TORY, no pr-scripted sound-bites, or his "apparent" dislke for johnson can alter that. Voted for brexit, against any agreement on brexit, many similar tory initiatives he backed reveals the true rory stewart. Worth a look at the official mp's voting record and form your own opinion.
Be quick before they get "lost", "redacted" or "protected". Dont sneer, if it can happen to the log-book of a nuclear submarine (ffs 200 metres beneath the Atlantic and went missing?????) it can happen to anything....
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Correct .... The Daily Mail ran front page stories warning people that ''German Jews were flooding into the Country''


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Conservatives eh .... what are they like?
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And the Daily Mail today:

MI6 warns Home Secretary Priti Patel not to relax visa rules for Ukrainian refugees due to 'risk they could include ISIS terrorists, mercenaries and mafia-linked criminals'​

Of course there are no named sources just "security chiefs".

I wonder how many Ukrainian women with kids have been charged with ISIS membership, being in the Mafia or are guns for hire?
 
west didsblue said:
And the Daily Mail today:

MI6 warns Home Secretary Priti Patel not to relax visa rules for Ukrainian refugees due to 'risk they could include ISIS terrorists, mercenaries and mafia-linked criminals'​

Of course there are no named sources just "security chiefs".

I wonder how many Ukrainian women with kids have been charged with ISIS membership, being in the Mafia or are guns for hire?
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I think I’m quite pleased, on balance, that we don’t have lots of ‘named‘ people working for MI6, as that would seem to defeat the object..
 
Some really thoughtful and educational posters using BM. Please do keep posting.

My personal wish is that one positive from all the current shitshow is that the facts behind the Russian- Tory relationship are stripped bare. Can’t imagine it will happen as operation gloss over is alive and kicking on multiple fronts like investment, personal responsibility and accountability, personal gain etc.

I posted a link to this article last week. Do read it if you find yourself with 15 minutes to spare.

bylinetimes.com

Putin’s Plot Against ‘Great’ Britain – And How He Got Away With It

Peter Jukes tracks Vladimir Putin’s long war against the West and the allies he has found in the pro-Brexit establishment in the plot to derail Britain
bylinetimes.com bylinetimes.com
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
I think I’m quite pleased, on balance, that we don’t have lots of ‘named‘ people working for MI6, as that would seem to defeat the object..
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Only after one name who could be the spokesman for the organisation, rather than a spy. We know that the head of MI6 is called Richard Moore, and presumably that doesn't compromise their activities, so I'm sure one more name wouldn't either.
 
west didsblue said:
And the Daily Mail today:

MI6 warns Home Secretary Priti Patel not to relax visa rules for Ukrainian refugees due to 'risk they could include ISIS terrorists, mercenaries and mafia-linked criminals'​

Of course there are no named sources just "security chiefs".

I wonder how many Ukrainian women with kids have been charged with ISIS membership, being in the Mafia or are guns for hire?
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Didn't you know - Shamima Begum or Mrs Corleone to use her alias is in fact Ukrainian and may have mafia links?
 
There‘s no need for any unwanted sorts to pretend to be a refugee to get in to Britain - all they need to do is make a decent contribution to the Tory party.
After all, a previous one got a knighthood after our great leader ignored security service advice against his appointment.
 
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