Joe Hart

Only a complete **** would say what Nuno did to Joe.
He didn't need to say what he did and as a manager there is still a way of letting people down without doing a hatchet job. Even if you don't like someone or don't rate their ability, you can still treat people respectfully and leave somethings unsaid.
 
andy h said:
Only a complete **** would say what Nuno did to Joe.
He didn't need to say what he did and as a manager there is still a way of letting people down without doing a hatchet job. Even if you don't like someone or don't rate their ability, you can still treat people respectfully and leave somethings unsaid.
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It's better to know where you stand. Anyhow he's playing in Scotland and although that's a drop in standard at least he is still playing. His form dropped off a cliff and for whatever reason as a player you have to ultimately take responsibility.

Players are great at blaming managers and sometimes they are right but when the managers start to stack up then the answer is clear.
 
hilts said:
It's better to know where you stand. Anyhow he's playing in Scotland and although that's a drop in standard at least he is still playing. His form dropped off a cliff and for whatever reason as a player you have to ultimately take responsibility.

Players are great at blaming managers and sometimes they are right but when the managers start to stack up then the answer is clear.
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There’s ‘knowing where you stand’ and delivering a message of utter contempt in a demoralising, and unnecessarily cruel fashion.

Those quotes show the difference in humans that Pep and Nuno are. One went about it the right way, the other was a massive bell end.
 
BlueTG said:
There’s ‘knowing where you stand’ and delivering a message of utter contempt in a demoralising, and unnecessarily cruel fashion.

Those quotes show the difference in humans that Pep and Nuno are. One went about it the right way, the other was a massive bell end.
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We don't know the context of the discussion or even if it happened the way Joe said. I think presuming Nuno is a bell end just because of a quote from a player who was obviously not in the managers plans is harsh.
 
hilts said:
We don't know the context of the discussion or even if it happened the way Joe said. I think presuming Nuno is a bell end just because of a quote from a player who was obviously not in the managers plans is harsh.
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Okay fair enough. I’ll await the other side of the story if it comes.
 
hilts said:
It's better to know where you stand. Anyhow he's playing in Scotland and although that's a drop in standard at least he is still playing. His form dropped off a cliff and for whatever reason as a player you have to ultimately take responsibility.

Players are great at blaming managers and sometimes they are right but when the managers start to stack up then the answer is clear.
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Ill start by saying that i loved Harts time at City , at one point he was totally world class.
But .. a familiar theme has repeated itself once it twice.
ive heard rumours about what accelerated his City departure but we’ll never know i guess
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Ill start by saying that i loved Harts time at City , at one point he was totally world class.
But .. a familiar theme has repeated itself once it twice.
ive heard rumours about what accelerated his City departure but we’ll never know i guess
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More innuendo?

He was a top keeper. Pep not wanting him made people sit up and think…then the innuendo sneaks in, and it become “the reason!”

It was never the reason!

Pep wanted a different type of keeper. The end.

If Joe had gone to a better club than he did, he could still be flourishing. Because he went to a series of shit teams that ship goals, it looked bad.

NES has no right to tell a player that he’s washed up. He has every right to tell him he’s not going to pick him because he doesn’t have trust in him. The rest is psychobabble that clearly didn’t work with the other players, either!

Joe has moved on, after eating humble pie for a few years, and I’m glad he’s setting records and winning trophies and titles in Scotland on the big stage up there.

He will FOREVER be cemented in history as THE Keeper at City when they became great again.

You can’t compare him to Ederson, because it’s a different time, a different team, and Ederson is just “different gravy” (as evidenced by the fact that he made 50% more passes than the top Burnley passer yesterday!) and almost unique in football.

I’m very glad Joe has found success again, and appears to have learned some good life lessons along the way. Were that we were all so fortunate to have tasted a little of that kind of life.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
More innuendo?

He was a top keeper. Pep not wanting him made people sit up and think…then the innuendo sneaks in, and it become “the reason!”

It was never the reason!

Pep wanted a different type of keeper. The end.

If Joe had gone to a better club than he did, he could still be flourishing. Because he went to a series of shit teams that ship goals, it looked bad.

NES has no right to tell a player that he’s washed up. He has every right to tell him he’s not going to pick him because he doesn’t have trust in him. The rest is psychobabble that clearly didn’t work with the other players, either!

Joe has moved on, after eating humble pie for a few years, and I’m glad he’s setting records and winning trophies and titles in Scotland on the big stage up there.

He will FOREVER be cemented in history as THE Keeper at City when they became great again.

You can’t compare him to Ederson, because it’s a different time, a different team, and Ederson is just “different gravy” (as evidenced by the fact that he made 50% more passes than the top Burnley passer yesterday!) and almost unique in football.

I’m very glad Joe has found success again, and appears to have learned some good life lessons along the way. Were that we were all so fortunate to have tasted a little of that kind of life.
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Whoah there cowboy. I never said any of that and yes it is all innuendo and rumour.
Harts form had already dipped prior to peps arrival.
the mistake wasnt getting rid of joe, it was getting bravo (crisp packet hands)
 
ChicagoBlue said:
More innuendo?

He was a top keeper. Pep not wanting him made people sit up and think…then the innuendo sneaks in, and it become “the reason!”

It was never the reason!

Pep wanted a different type of keeper. The end.

If Joe had gone to a better club than he did, he could still be flourishing. Because he went to a series of shit teams that ship goals, it looked bad.

NES has no right to tell a player that he’s washed up. He has every right to tell him he’s not going to pick him because he doesn’t have trust in him. The rest is psychobabble that clearly didn’t work with the other players, either!

Joe has moved on, after eating humble pie for a few years, and I’m glad he’s setting records and winning trophies and titles in Scotland on the big stage up there.

He will FOREVER be cemented in history as THE Keeper at City when they became great again.

You can’t compare him to Ederson, because it’s a different time, a different team, and Ederson is just “different gravy” (as evidenced by the fact that he made 50% more passes than the top Burnley passer yesterday!) and almost unique in football.

I’m very glad Joe has found success again, and appears to have learned some good life lessons along the way. Were that we were all so fortunate to have tasted a little of that kind of life.
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He was a very good keeper, no doubt. However, his concentration sometimes let him down. He excelled when we were under the cosh with Spurs away and Dortmund at home being particular highlights. Unfortunately he also became susceptible to shots low down to his left and, even though he made a particularly good save in that vicinity today, once we all knew it and, more pertinently, the opposition knew it, he was always going to struggle.
 
I was at a loss last night so watched joe harts greatest saves on YouTube. Some of his saves were just outrageous. I mean that one from Carroll at Anfield and the one at Swansea. Not many keepers would have been able to pull those off.
Such a shame his career nosedived the way it did because he was able to make saves others could have only dreamt off.

Glad he’s back and running and read last night what that nuno espirito character said about him. Out of line that and especially when you consider he was a keeper an all it was pretty nasty what he said to him.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Whoah there cowboy. I never said any of that and yes it is all innuendo and rumour.
Harts form had already dipped prior to peps arrival.
the mistake wasnt getting rid of joe, it was getting bravo (crisp packet hands)
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Didn’t imply anything, only noted you said something without saying something. The rest was all me.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
He was a very good keeper, no doubt. However, his concentration sometimes let him down. He excelled when we were under the cosh with Spurs away and Dortmund at home being particular highlights. Unfortunately he also became susceptible to shots low down to his left and, even though he made a particularly good save in that vicinity today, once we all knew it and, more pertinently, the opposition knew it, he was always going to struggle.
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To that I say “Poppycock!”

:-)
 
Bobby the blue said:
I was at a loss last night so watched joe harts greatest saves on YouTube. Some of his saves were just outrageous. I mean that one from Carroll at Anfield and the one at Swansea. Not many keepers would have been able to pull those off.
Such a shame his career nosedived the way it did because he was able to make saves others could have only dreamt off.

Glad he’s back and running and read last night what that nuno espirito character said about him. Out of line that and especially when you consider he was a keeper an all it was pretty nasty what he said to him.
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That performance in the 0-0 at anfield was right up there with Dortmund, Bercelona and White Hart Lane imo
 
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Head and shoulders has ended up with Joe having a bald patch - they don't advertise that do they?
 
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