It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Philips is not good enough simple as that

And he still wears cornish pasties on his feet.

 

[g180aj]

I’m a little uncomfortable with the downgrade in some of these targets and hoping they’re bluffs. I can’t be the only one seeing this. Other clubs are aiming higher. Haaland won’t solve all our problems

No one saw Liverpool signing Dias, tsimikas, Thiago and Jota and thought wow that’s incredible business. Most thought Dias was an ok signing but probably a bit lightweight, Jota wasn’t even the star at a mid table premier league team, tsimikas ….who? & Thiago was injured all the time.

The reality is when Robertson doesn’t play you don’t really notice, Dias although the media are bias is apparently the signing of the season, Thiago has been a 7 out of 10 player most weeks and if you get that with his ability then it’s worth every penny and Jota for me is Liverpool’s player of the season….29 goals and assists in 51 games.

If we sign Haaland, Alvarez, Nunes, Phillips and cucarella for somewhere between £30-50mill net the we have replaced Mendy, Torres, Aguero, Jesus & Fernandinho, that is a massive improvement for me.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Someone like Phillips probably has to make the step up if he wants to keep his England place. There's so much midfield talent available for Southgate to choose from, and with more coming through all the time, at some point he's going to come under pressure to fit them in rather than persisting with a more negative approach.

Already there's Rice, Henderson, Bellingham, Ward-Prowse, Gallagher etc. to compete with for two positions. If Southgate decides to play with one holding player and two more advanced, Phillips is basically hoping to be picked as Rice's backup. Playing a decent amount of games under Pep and being part of an established winning team is more likely to make that happen than playing for Leeds week in, week out. Of course he could go somewhere like Arsenal or Spurs, probably play a lot more than he would here, but would that count for much?

 

[g180aj]

I can't believe we've sold angelino for 3 years in a row now, amazing business

Sorry in my head they finalised it this season but you are correct it was lat season.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Already there's Rice, Henderson, Bellingham, Ward-Prowse, Gallagher etc. to compete with for two positions. If Southgate decides to play with one holding player and two more advanced, Phillips is basically hoping to be picked as Rice's backup.

 

[RayCTID]

The only positive with the Kalvin Phillips signing is the price. At least it isn't £100m+ and it will probably satisfy the Premier League's Brexit ruling. Cucurella is more appealing as Brighton has had a good season.

 

[Thenumber1blue]

Quite an important transfer window, so I'm pretty sure we'll be aiming higher than kalvin Phillips

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Yeah, I know.

I'm just hoping someone like Spurs or Arsenal are foolish enough to offer him a job. Then maybe the FA will hire a manager who isn't scared of using the talent at his disposal.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Squad needs bulking up too, can’t all be expensive superstars.

Cucurella and someone like Phillips or Ward-Prowse would be decent fillers and not cost the earth.

Who is talking about superstars? You can look at several leagues and come up with better options that wouldn’t downgrade us severely. You can’t sign players that you would dread seeing in big games. And Ward-Prowse would not be cheap (just like I don’t think the other two would either). It’s just an example, but you take Danilo from Palmeiras (remember this name) who would cost much less than Phillips, is much younger and much more potential, that would be the way to go. Does anyone think Phillips makes the squad in the best team in Europe? Why is Liverpool, a team that could win the quadruple, looking at Tchouameni (and they already have Fabinho) and we’re looking at Kalvin fucking Phillips?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Yeah, I know.

I'm just hoping someone like Spurs or Arsenal are foolish enough to offer him a job. Then maybe the FA will hire a manager who isn't scared of using the talent at his disposal.

5 at the back and 2 holding midfielders.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

And he still wears cornish pasties on his feet.
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When someone mentioned pasties on his feet earlier, I thought it was a metaphor for him being technically poor.

But nope. There they are.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

No one saw Liverpool signing Dias, tsimikas, Thiago and Jota and thought wow that’s incredible business. Most thought Dias was an ok signing but probably a bit lightweight, Jota wasn’t even the star at a mid table premier league team, tsimikas ….who? & Thiago was injured all the time.

The reality is when Robertson doesn’t play you don’t really notice, Dias although the media are bias is apparently the signing of the season, Thiago has been a 7 out of 10 player most weeks and if you get that with his ability then it’s worth every penny and Jota for me is Liverpool’s player of the season….29 goals and assists in 51 games.

If we sign Haaland, Alvarez, Nunes, Phillips and cucarella for somewhere between £30-50mill net the we have replaced Mendy, Torres, Aguero, Jesus & Fernandinho, that is a massive improvement for me.

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I called Diaz a game changer for Liverpool here when he was signed. An incredible player I’ve kept my eye on for awhile. The kind of player you get when you open up the horizons.
I don’t think Alvarez, Nunes, Phillips and the other guy are any kind of improvement

 

[RayCTID]

To be honest Liverpool wouldn't of had a chance with Diaz if Porto had remained in this season's Champions League

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

When someone mentioned pasties on his feet earlier, I thought it was a metaphor for him being technically poor.

But nope. There they are.

It was me. I was too bone idle to find the pic at first.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Quite an important transfer window, so I'm pretty sure we'll be aiming higher than kalvin Phillips

Exactly

 

[Deleted member 87819]

To be honest Liverpool wouldn't of had a chance with Diaz if Porto had remained in this season's Champions League

And?

 

[RayCTID]

And?

They had got incredibly lucky

 

[Deleted member 87819]

They had got incredibly lucky

I don’t call competence luck. How important was Ruben Dias to our campaigns last season? Did we also get lucky that they didn’t get to the group stage? And either way they had their sights on the forme Porto player anyway. I have hope some of these links are false. Like someone said, it seems like this kind of scouting is like watching YouTube highlights

 

[vincent]

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I called Diaz a game changer for Liverpool here when he was signed. An incredible player I’ve kept my eye on for awhile. The kind of player you get when you open up the horizons.
I don’t think Alvarez, Nunes, Phillips and the other guy are any kind of improvement

Debatable but when Liverpool bought Andy Robertson and Matip nobody thought they would be the players they are. Probably say the same about Salah and Jota too. Think Pep and his team know what they’re doing.

 

[RayCTID]

I don’t call competence luck. How important was Ruben Dias to our campaigns last season? Did we also get lucky that they didn’t get to the group stage? And either way they had their sights on the forme Porto player anyway. I have hope some of these links are false. Like someone said, it seems like this kind of scouting is like watching YouTube highlights

They still had to rely on Porto crashing out the Champions League. Likewise for Ruben Dias. I am not totally disagreeing with you with the overall quality of Kalvin Phillips but I don't agree with blowing more smoke up Liverpool's bum with an signing that under normal circumstance wouldn't of happend until the summer. Same with Bruno Fernandes