The British Monarchy

Octavian said:
Of course but her public lie that Archie wasn’t selected as Prince due to racism, when Harry’s kids would never be due to a 90 year old change in Royal protocol, is a particularly bad one.
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It might have been a misinterpretation of what she actually said.
 
kaz7 said:
She didnt exactly say that and the queen changed the rules so charlotte can be queen later on and also when the queen dies archie and lily get to be prince and princess
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Absolute fucking bollocks, why are you lying to yourself?

This is a direct quote from Meghan:

“idea of the first member of colour in this family not being titled in the same way that other grandchildren would be”.
“It’s not their right to take away,” she told Oprah Winfrey.

amp.theguardian.com

Was Meghan's son Archie denied the title 'prince' because he's mixed race?

The Duchess of Sussex told Oprah she was shocked at the decision – but who made it, and was it fair?
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This is the real reason and why Meghan shouldn’t be ever trusted, she’s a pathological liar:

“George V’s declaration sets out: “The grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of this realm.”
As such, Archie will be entitled to the titles when Prince Charles accedes the throne.
George V’s declaration means that only Prince George, as a great-grandson of the monarch down the direct line of succession to the throne, was originally entitled to be a prince, as he is the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales.”
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
It might have been a misinterpretation of what she actually said.
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“The idea of the first member of colour in this family not being titled in the same way that other grandchildren would be”.
“It’s not their right to take away,” she told Oprah Winfrey.

Direct quote.
 
Octavian said:
Absolute fucking bollocks, why are you lying to yourself?

This is a direct quote from Meghan:

“idea of the first member of colour in this family not being titled in the same way that other grandchildren would be”.
“It’s not their right to take away,” she told Oprah Winfrey.

amp.theguardian.com

Was Meghan's son Archie denied the title 'prince' because he's mixed race?

The Duchess of Sussex told Oprah she was shocked at the decision – but who made it, and was it fair?
amp.theguardian.com amp.theguardian.com

This is the real reason and why Meghan shouldn’t be ever trusted, she’s a pathological liar:

“George V’s declaration sets out: “The grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of this realm.”
As such, Archie will be entitled to the titles when Prince Charles accedes the throne.
George V’s declaration means that only Prince George, as a great-grandson of the monarch down the direct line of succession to the throne, was originally entitled to be a prince, as he is the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales.”
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It's otherwise known as a Winfreyism, what is said on Winfrey stays on Winfrey.
 
Octavian said:
Absolute fucking bollocks, why are you lying to yourself?

This is a direct quote from Meghan:

“idea of the first member of colour in this family not being titled in the same way that other grandchildren would be”.
“It’s not their right to take away,” she told Oprah Winfrey.

amp.theguardian.com

Was Meghan's son Archie denied the title 'prince' because he's mixed race?

The Duchess of Sussex told Oprah she was shocked at the decision – but who made it, and was it fair?
amp.theguardian.com amp.theguardian.com

This is the real reason and why Meghan shouldn’t be ever trusted, she’s a pathological liar:

“George V’s declaration sets out: “The grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of this realm.”
As such, Archie will be entitled to the titles when Prince Charles accedes the throne.
George V’s declaration means that only Prince George, as a great-grandson of the monarch down the direct line of succession to the throne, was originally entitled to be a prince, as he is the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales.”
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What that doesn’t state is whether they had been told they would never have titles or not.
 
Octavian said:
Absolute fucking bollocks, why are you lying to yourself?

This is a direct quote from Meghan:

“idea of the first member of colour in this family not being titled in the same way that other grandchildren would be”.
“It’s not their right to take away,” she told Oprah Winfrey.

amp.theguardian.com

Was Meghan's son Archie denied the title 'prince' because he's mixed race?

The Duchess of Sussex told Oprah she was shocked at the decision – but who made it, and was it fair?
amp.theguardian.com amp.theguardian.com

This is the real reason and why Meghan shouldn’t be ever trusted, she’s a pathological liar:

“George V’s declaration sets out: “The grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of this realm.”
As such, Archie will be entitled to the titles when Prince Charles accedes the throne.
George V’s declaration means that only Prince George, as a great-grandson of the monarch down the direct line of succession to the throne, was originally entitled to be a prince, as he is the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales.”
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Get onto the bbc then as they say archie and lily are given titles , andys kids are princess, how come that happens ?
 
Ive been behind on this thread. Imagine the arseache that goes into assembling that crowd, in that room, for one to sit in a fine red chair and sign documents live on television with the world watching. Youve had all morning to put your best gear on. Oh and your mums just died. Someone takes a look at the table youre to sit at, and embarrases you all by placing these inkwells precisely just in front of the chair. No way im touching them if ive to sit down there; they might as well be high explosive for the trouble they'd cause.

I actually think I'd be exasperated, too.

His mother wouldn't have shown it. I bet his father would. I wonder which he might be more like, in the manner that he does the job?
 
kaz7 said:
Get onto the bbc then as they say archie and lily are given titles , andys kids are princess, how come that happens ?
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I’ve literally posted George V’s declaration for you there, that explains this.

The only great grandson who gets the full title is the one who’s heir to throne.

Archie and Lilibet, and the rest of the great grandchildren are now entitled to the titles, now they’re no longer great grandchildren of the Monarch.

Archie and Lili won’t get them because their parents have left the royal family though now.
 
kaz7 said:
She was supporting harry obviously , he was probably haveing flashbacks and wouldnt have done that without her
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You look at the footage and videos and you see a woman very loving and suportive of her fella and him the same to her.

And when you get a picture of all 4 you notice while harry and meghan walk hand in hand and help each other in things, Wills and Kate look like a bloke who stays with her but is cold and keeps a metre distance, probably because she won't stick sex toys up his arse ;-)
 
Good to see Harry again with his bro ,he will probably be glad to be heading back to USA with his hot wife and kids and away from the intrusive UK media fest of the next few months, years. Looked broken on the day of his grans death and whilst I'm no Meghan fan she's clearly a tough , focused cookie and rock for the lad.
 
urban genie said:
You look at the footage and videos and you see a woman very loving and suportive of her fella and him the same to her.

And when you get a picture of all 4 you notice while harry and meghan walk hand in hand and help each other in things, Wills and Kate look like a bloke who stays with her but is cold and keeps a metre distance, probably because she won't stick sex toys up his arse ;-)
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Either that or she realised getting married to an ugly **** is still an ugly ****, royal or not.
 
Wait til people hear about the US crowd at the UFC booing a tribute to the Queen.

I get the feeling the words special and relationship might get an airing.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
You can also include the SNP, Lib Dems, conservatives, Labour and pretty much every major institution in Britain, celebrity and football clubs supporting the royal family. The establishment seems to be the majority of institutions/ people in power

Also seems like huge numbers of ordinary people across Scotland. Entire villages so far.
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We could and would have done all that if the games where on.
 
urban genie said:
Not jus the beeb, but your own hero Sturgeon too and the welsh fella.

It is times like this you remember even those politicians you put faith in are all part of the establishment and you are just a pawn for their own ends.
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Prefer to see my self as rook. And Sturgeon ain’t my hero. Hero worship of politicians is for thick cunts. You get a by if you do the right thing but that’s it.
 
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