The Conservative Party

BrianW said:
If I wanted to write a thesis to demonstrate that democracy doesn't work, the events of 2016-2022 in the UK would provide me with all the material I would require.

I would posit that democracy only works: 1. If you have an educated electorate 2. If you do not have a vile, swivel-eyed media run in the interests of plutocratic criminals and 3. If you do not have FPTP voting which gives inordinate power to the largest minority.
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I’ve been saying it for years that in order to vote you should have to pass a test to show you have a good basic understanding of the political system, political parties, political ideologies and that you have read and understood the manifestos in the run up to elections.

We have to pass a test to do almost everything else in life: go to college then university, become a teacher, become a doctor, become a lawyer, become a joiner/plumber/electrician, immigrants coming here have to pass a Life in the UK test, you cannot drive on the roads without passing multiple tests… yet you can vote on who runs this entire country or in referendums that change an entire continent and not have one fucking idea about anything to do with politics? Nah mate, no fucking chance is that justifiable!

Allowing people to vote when they don’t know what they’re voting for is like asking someone with no driving licence and has never sat behind a wheel before, to drive a coach full of people on the motorway.

I’d go further as well and say that history and contemporary political parties across the world have shown us that political party systems do…not…work. Putting one political party in power is giving power too far too narrow an outlook on the spectrum to run a country. In order to get the best way to govern you need to have a range of ideals so that acts are never too extreme in one ideology. In order to pass anything, you have to have considered and included all aspects of capitalism, socialism and also green issues. If any of them are too weighted in either capitalism or socialism then they cannot be passed because it’s acting on too small an entity of the country. And if it’s ecological impact isn’t considered it also does not get passed. Every government should be a coalition of the top individual politicians across the political spectrum, not a single party with one ideology or a few ideologies at a similar area of the spectrum.
 
Elbow beards said:
Gets rid of one ****, puts another **** in his place and ploughs on regardless wrecking the country. These cunts need to go ASAP before it's too late and we are all working 60 hours 6 days a week.
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Hunt will be doing the rounds in the next few days, so we’ll learn more, but given how quickly they’re ditching their cavalier approach to the economy, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they poured water on the bonfire of the regulations they’ve been threatening to light.
 
Gabriel said:
Well, to some extent the direction they’re heading in now is more in line with what Sunak said he’d do, something supported by 137 MPs.
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Should have gone with sunak then. If this is what they are doing, he would have done it better and not killed the economy for the past 6 weeks.
 
117 M34 said:
Should have gone with sunak then. If this is what they are doing, he would have done it better and not killed the economy for the past 6 weeks.
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Had it been left to the MPs, then they probably would. However, for some inexplicable reason, the Gin and Jag belt preferred Truss’ fantasies to Sunak’s harsh realities.
 
Vic said:
Isn't he Romanian every day?
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No idea - he could have applied for and got citizenship so he could be British - however your question made me realise I didn't know one imporant thing about him - does he wish it could be Christmas everyday?
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I’ve been saying it for years that in order to vote you should have to pass a test to show you have a good basic understanding of the political system, political parties, political ideologies and that you have read and understood the manifestos in the run up to elections.

We have to pass a test to do almost everything else in life: go to college then university, become a teacher, become a doctor, become a lawyer, become a joiner/plumber/electrician, immigrants coming here have to pass a Life in the UK test, you cannot drive on the roads without passing multiple tests… yet you can vote on who runs this entire country or in referendums that change an entire continent and not have one fucking idea about anything to do with politics? Nah mate, no fucking chance is that justifiable!

Allowing people to vote when they don’t know what they’re voting for is like asking someone with no driving licence and has never sat behind a wheel before, to drive a coach full of people on the motorway.

I’d go further as well and say that history and contemporary political parties across the world have shown us that political party systems do…not…work. Putting one political party in power is giving power too far too narrow an outlook on the spectrum to run a country. In order to get the best way to govern you need to have a range of ideals so that acts are never too extreme in one ideology. In order to pass anything, you have to have considered and included all aspects of capitalism, socialism and also green issues. If any of them are too weighted in either capitalism or socialism then they cannot be passed because it’s acting on too small an entity of the country. And if it’s ecological impact isn’t considered it also does not get passed. Every government should be a coalition of the top individual politicians across the political spectrum, not a single party with one ideology or a few ideologies at a similar area of the spectrum.
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I asked a couple of my mates how they voted on Brexit and they said out. I asked why and they said “just fancied a change” I asked “a change from what?” Answer “don’t know”
 
This is just a shift to the other Toryism that led us here in the first place. Everyone pays more, for everything, so the top bracket feel secure. Hopefully that will rub off on you lot, LOL.

Also, we can't make you pay to see a doctor, but we can make it impossible. And then make you pay, at every stage, for the privilege of treating yourself.

It doesn't pass the 'reasonable' conservative test, as people are dropping out of work at an alarming rate due to a massive increase in health conditions. It's bound to cost more than it saves, in other words. But it really sounds like good sense if you just automatically asssume that's poppycock and they're all workshy malingerers who will get better the instant succumb to the urge to escape poverty.
 
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