The Conservative Party

[mancity2012_eamo]

I didn’t write that mate.
it was a party leader wot done it.

Sounds great.
Let’s get this party started.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Sounds great.
Let’s get this party started.

she included figures for Ireland before and after joining the EU, population numbers, GDP, average income per head. Quite staggering growth. Also the shift away from relying on U.K. for trade very impressive.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

As an alternative to Tory austerity, what do folk feel about this manifesto:

• regain European citizenship and the right to study, work and live across the European Union
• have lower energy prices and security of supply by increasing and diversifying our electricity generating capacity, making better, greener use of abundant natural energy resources
• have a better, fairer working life, including improved access to flexible working, greater job security through strengthened workplace rights and, if you are a young person, the same minimum wage as everybody else
• escape an economic model that concentrates wealth in a small proportion of the country while producing inequality, low investment, and low productivity
• retain free movement
• benefit directly from investments from the New Investment Fund, with an investment of up to £20 billion in major infrastructure, including investment in more energy-efficient homes, greener transport, better digital and mobile connectivity, and more affordable housing
• take part in new ways for communities to own and steer the economy, including through direct stakes in local developments
• live in a country where decisions about how we use our assets, talents and resources reflect our values and democratic choices, allowing us to develop the kind of inclusive consensus-driven economic policies that serve other European countries so well

That actually sounds good.

 

[Octavian]

she included figures for Ireland before and after joining the EU, population numbers, GDP, average income per head. Quite staggering growth. Also the shift away from relying on U.K. for trade very impressive.

Huge difference - Ireland has never relied on UK funding for public services.

The UK didn’t give ireland fuck all when they were in the UK.

 

[urban genie]

Well at least labour in wales are showing some passion and telling tories what they think of them

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

she included figures for Ireland before and after joining the EU, population numbers, GDP, average income per head. Quite staggering growth. Also the shift away from relying on U.K. for trade very impressive.

I like her as a politician.
None of our concern I know but she comes across well and although it does seem to some to be a one issue party, she puts her case forward quite clearly and unwaveringly. Far more coherent an argument than what is thrown back at her, because you know it is a cause she is serious about.

Outside looking in again, but those trying to undermine her seem to me not to be as concerned about Scotland or the reasons she illuminates for independence, but more interested in saying you won’t survive without us, we’re hanging on to power.

I honestly don’t know whether you will decide to leave the UK or what form of state you would be if you did but I don’t see why you would not be encouraged to succeed by the rest of Europe.

The Republic of Scotland ?
Is that a possibility?
Nicola as Head of State? Maybe not she would be PM.
Sadds for Chancellor of the Exchequer.

That leaves Prez up for grabs.
Blueparrot? Scottyboi? Anyone stepping up to the mark?

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Huge difference - Ireland has never relied on UK funding for public services.

The UK didn’t give ireland fuck all when they were in the UK.

No but you took our spuds. ;-)

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Huge difference - Ireland has never relied on UK funding for public services.

The UK didn’t give ireland fuck all when they were in the UK.

And you wonder why we left.

 

[Octavian]

No but you took our spuds. ;-)

We absolutely shafted you lot and we’re giving Scotland more than they put in to the UK‘a coffers.

It’s not remotely the same thing.

But thanks for the spuds :)

 

[aguero93:20]

Huge difference - Ireland has never relied on UK funding for public services.

The UK didn’t give ireland fuck all when they were in the UK.

However, we went from 90% trade with Britain to c8%, since joining the EU.

 

[Octavian]

And you wonder why we left.

I don’t wonder at all, I’m proud to be English but I’d have been a Republican if I was Irish in the 1920s.

 

[Octavian]

However, we went from 90% trade with Britain to c8%, since joining the EU.

Tbf we stopped making anything in that time and became a service economy, which contributed to that.

 

[aguero93:20]

And you wonder why we left.

Fucking Tories. That's why we left.

 

[aguero93:20]

Tbf we stopped making anything in that time and became a service economy, which contributed to that.

True, very true. However we also changed an awful lot of our trade abroad.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I don’t wonder at all, I’m proud to be English but I’d have been a Republican if I was Irish in the 1920s.

Don’t start singing Ooh Aah Paul McGrath now. It could get messy in here.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I like her as a politician.
None of our concern I know but she comes across well and although it does seem to some to be a one issue party, she puts her case forward quite clearly and unwaveringly. Far more coherent an argument than what is thrown back at her, because you know it is a cause she is serious about.

Outside looking in again, but those trying to undermine her seem to me not to be as concerned about Scotland or the reasons she illuminates for independence, but more interested in saying you won’t survive without us, we’re hanging on to power.

I honestly don’t know whether you will decide to leave the UK or what form of state you would be if you did but I don’t see why you would not be encouraged to succeed by the rest of Europe.

The Republic of Scotland ?
Is that a possibility?
Nicola as Head of State? Maybe not she would be PM.
Sadds for Chancellor of the Exchequer.

That leaves Prez up for grabs.
Blueparrot? Scottyboi? Anyone stepping up to the mark?

Nobody and I mean nobody from Westminster has ever even attempted a serious conversation with her around independence. Maybe Gordon Brown did as part of last referendum. I have done a 180degree return since then because all I can see is a failing U.K. that threw the parachutes out of the plane as soon as it started to burn.

for god sakes The two main parties are both terrified to even address the catastrophe that is Brexit. Scotland has a great deal going for it. it already has a Parliament. It’s own legal and education system so it is well placed to move forward as an independent nation Within Europe. For those shouting about deficits, they will be managed over time and after all, the U.K. are well practiced at running with them so we will have a role model on our doorstep To learn from.

the question for me has flipped entirely, before it was why would we, it’s now why wouldn’t we. And the only answer coming back is you aren’t big enough, clever enough, solvent enough to do it. Well you know what…..

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

We absolutely shafted you lot and we’re giving Scotland more than they put in to the UK‘a coffers.

It’s not remotely the same thing.

But thanks for the spuds :)

It actually wasn’t the spuds that you took. They were rotten.

The real problem was the grain you exported out of the country at the same time.

But saying you took our spuds, is better banter.

 

[Octavian]

It actually wasn’t the spuds that you took. They were rotten.

The real problem was the grain you exported out of the country at the same time.

But saying you took our spuds, is better banter.

Yeah wasn’t good, at least now in return we’re now your de facto airforce and air defence so we’re pals now

 

[aguero93:20]

It actually wasn’t the spuds that you took. They were rotten.

The real problem was the grain you exported out of the country at the same time.

But saying you took our spuds, is better banter.

385,000k of food over the course of the famine, understandably we took it badly.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Yeah wasn’t good, at least now in return we’re now your de facto airforce and air defence so we’re pals now

All’s good in the hood.
Now what are we going to do about the NIP.