The Conservative Party

Fred_Quimby said:
F..king disgraceful isn’t it. We are in the middle of a cost of living crisis and this shower of absolute sh1te are arguing about who will be the next boss. This has been going on now for 3 months and the country is on it’s knees and this lot are squabbling.
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Well done, mate. Was thinking today that while this shower sit in their piss stained grerks, scratching their nadgers, the country has gone from a disaster to a crisis, or vice-versus.

Being a cynical bastard I’d say that this is planned.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Well done, mate. Was thinking today that while this shower sit in their piss stained grerks, scratching their nadgers, the country has gone from a disaster to a crisis, or vice-versus.

Being a cynical bastard I’d say that this is planned.
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Thats exactly what it is. The Old Etononians will be back in power by the end of the month, and they are making a point about it. Wankers
 
I think I should make my position clear on capital punishment.

I’m in favour of bringing it back for the following:

1. Murder of anyone serving in the armed forces, police and other emergency services.
2. Anyone who kills a child.

That’s it
 
Jack Hackett said:
You know the difference between opinion and citation? If you answer any of my future comments with citation…you’ll be ignored.

Because it’s about the most moronic rhetorical device, assuming you might grace that with that description
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You claimed "labour voters" believed something without presenting any evidence and being embarrassed by GDM for previously advancing the view you have juat derided Labour voters for allegedly holding.

It wouldn't actually be that difficult for to find some evidence of your claim it exists as there are various companies that conduct regular polling.

My belief is that you are a ****, my citation is the nonsense you've just spouted, especially your remarks attacking lowly paid clerical staff.

Are you drinking bitter tonight by any chance?
 
Jack Hackett said:
In a healthy democracy, people are quite happy to entertain differences of views. Do you want everyone to think like you?
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I’m happy to debate stuff but you’re a closed book.

And if you support this shower of right-wing shit then there is nothing worth debating.

Only an idiot or a WUM would try to defend what is happening at the moment, and I don’t take you as an idiot. So, Goodnight.
 
Jack Hackett said:
Speculation
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It’s an opinion based on 100 mps publicly declaring for him and that’s without about 50 that voted for him last time having said anything yet.

If anyone else gets above 100 they’ll still be nowhere near him and get pressure to pull out before it goes to members votes.
 
Jack Hackett said:
I think I should make my position clear on capital punishment.

I’m in favour of bringing it back for the following:

1. Murder of anyone serving in the armed forces, police and other emergency services.
2. Anyone who kills a child.

That’s it
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And if someone gets wrongly convicted of either of those counts, you’re happy with the consequences?
 
I take it that the party want a one person commitment from all, eradicating the need for a members vote. With what we saw during the fracking vote, will the whips be person-handling people to move one way or the other?
 
meltonblue said:
It’s an opinion based on 100 mps publicly declaring for him and that’s without about 50 that voted for him last time having said anything yet.

If anyone else gets above 100 they’ll still be nowhere near him and get pressure to pull out before it goes to members votes.
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Wouldn't expect anyone with over 100 votes to pull out. This is their last chance at being PM so would expect them to hang in there until voted out
 
mosssideblue said:
Wouldn't expect anyone with over 100 votes to pull out. This is their last chance at being PM so would expect them to hang in there until voted out
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They’d be under immense pressure from the party, they don’t want it to go to the members. If there’s, say, an 80 mp difference between first and second and the second wins a members vote, the parliamentary party is still completely screwed.

Admittedly they’re pretty screwed whatever they choose but that would be the last thing they’d want.
 
Jack Hackett said:
There is no such thing as unfunded tax cuts. There is only unfunded public spending. As for a treasury mandarin, no one gives a fuck. Except treasury mandarins, of course.

Frankly, the state is bloated and needs to be cut back substantially. I’d start with firing half of the admin and clerical staff in the NHS. I worked in NHS trusts for 14 man years and they are a leech on the system.

Taxes need to be cut (maybe not now given the economic situation but eventually, yes) and the state needs to be smallet.
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No. Brexit means the state will have to be larger, ie more regulatory bodies, more custom staff, more of everything. The functions that we subcontracted out to the EU now have to be done in-house. Additionally, Brexit increased the red tape and admin for the State and industry to deal with. The sooner people engage with reality the better off we will be.

This living in la-la land, is why markets are increasingly skittish over the UK’s prospects and credit rating agencies keep lowering our rating.

In short, we have run out road and unicorns.
 
meltonblue said:
They’d be under immense pressure from the party, they don’t want it to go to the members. If there’s, say, an 80 mp difference between first and second and the second wins a members vote, the parliamentary party is still completely screwed.

Admittedly they’re pretty screwed whatever they choose but that would be the last thing they’d want.
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We thankfully don't have too long to see what unfolds.
 
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