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What’s the opinion up North about the threat from Westminster of the alternative to an active Assembly being governance from London and Dublin. I know that’s not exactly what it would be but the wording and optics of that were always going to infuriate Unionism.
They’ve since retracted that but was that intentional?
Is it like a gift for the election campaign to the DUP.
The only way the DUP will go into Assembly is with a majority over Sinn Fein. Is it a tactic to increase their vote?
Cant speak for everyone, but id rather not be governed by London...not aware of the "threat" of part governance from Dublin (how would that work??)....its not because i fear/doubt the decisions made by London, its more that theyd do absolutely feck all too, and still nothing would be done....London absolutely do not want to have to deal with us too. So all in all, i think it was a pretty empty threat tbh

Ultimately i dont think there will be any change in result all all
 
Cant speak for everyone, but id rather not be governed by London...not aware of the "threat" of part governance from Dublin (how would that work??)...
Probably the way foreign policy for NI works now, discussion and negotiation between Dublin and London. We've 25 years of practice at this stage tbf.
 
Cant speak for everyone, but id rather not be governed by London...not aware of the "threat" of part governance from Dublin (how would that work??)....its not because i fear/doubt the decisions made by London, its more that theyd do absolutely feck all too, and still nothing would be done....London absolutely do not want to have to deal with us too. So all in all, i think it was a pretty empty threat tbh

Ultimately i dont think there will be any change in result all all
I think they were really talking about joint stewardship of some institutions, which already happens, and is catered for within the GFA but that’s not how it was received.

Any political programs I’ve watched, both Irish and BBC has the DUP making capital out of the soundbite.
 
I think they were really talking about joint stewardship of some institutions, which already happens, and is catered for within the GFA but that’s not how it was received.

Any political programs I’ve watched, both Irish and BBC has the DUP making capital out of the soundbite.
I thought the BBC asking the editor of a unionist newspaper to explain the situation was a bit of a piss take.
 
I thought the BBC asking the editor of a unionist newspaper to explain the situation was a bit of a piss take.
It makes you wonder if they’re throwing the DUP a lifeline just in case SF got a bigger majority.

The cynic in me thinks this is possibly so. We’ll see how the Gov and BBC perform between now and a December election.
 
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Modern politics and politicians are really twisting peoples minds - all these protesters had they tried to move to say London in the 60's they would have been met with NO IRISH signs in the windows of most boarding houses - they should maybe talk with their elders to understand

 
Modern politics and politicians are really twisting peoples minds - all these protesters had they tried to move to say London in the 60's they would have been met with NO IRISH signs in the windows of most boarding houses - they should maybe talk with their elders to understand


We have our share of racists over here, you're correct that people here should be more tolerant of immigrants given our history of immigration and how we were initially treated by countries of choice.
So many clowns can't or won't see that the issues around immigrants are a failure of Government, that's where peoples anger should be directed.
Even the way they are treated by our Government is pretty inhumane, direct provision is an abortion of a policy.
 
So the DUP acted illegally when they ordered a stop to the post-Brexit checks on goods coming into NI. Well we all knew that, and they knew that....but where does this go? What are the consequences of such actions? If none, they (and other parties) will just keep pulling the same tricks...


The Democratic Unionists acted illegally when they ordered a halt to post-Brexit checks on goods arriving in Northern Ireland, a Belfast judge ruled Thursday in the latest setback for the party’s anti-protocol campaign.

Justice Adrian Colton gave a point-by-point demolition of the DUP’s rationale for ordering the U-turn on checks in February 2022, shortly before the party withdrew from the top post in Northern Ireland’s cross-community government, triggering its eventual collapse.

Pending the court judgment, senior civil servants had refused to carry out the order of then-Agriculture Minister Edwin Poots to halt EU-required checks on goods arriving in the ports of Larne and Belfast. His order faced immediate legal challenge, including from Belfast City Council, which is responsible for ensuring that post-Brexit trade rules are enforced at the capital’s port.

Colton said Poots — who like other ministers was ejected from office in October when time finally ran out on their leaderless coalition — had not waited for his own department’s legal advice and “was motivated by political rather than legal considerations.”

The judge said Poots and the agriculture department under his control “had at all material times a statutory obligation to implement the checks” and, by trying to stop those checks after 13 months in lawful operation, “was in breach of his legal obligations.”

Poots and the DUP offered no reaction.

The party and other anti-protocol unionists have lost a string of court actions challenging the legality of the protocol, a key plank of the U.K.’s 2019 Withdrawal Agreement that leaves Northern Ireland subject to the EU’s goods rules. That agreement places EU checks on goods arriving in Northern Ireland at the ports, rather than along the Irish land border, to keep trade barrier-free with the Republic of Ireland, an EU member.

The DUP has repeatedly asserted that the checks are deterring British trade with Northern Ireland, a claim at odds with the first official full-year trade data published Wednesday. It found that the value of goods sales by Great Britain-based firms into Northern Ireland rose by 14 percent in 2021 to £12.3 billion, a record high.

I thought the last paragraph was interesting...
 
So the DUP acted illegally when they ordered a stop to the post-Brexit checks on goods coming into NI. Well we all knew that, and they knew that....but where does this go? What are the consequences of such actions? If none, they (and other parties) will just keep pulling the same tricks...




I thought the last paragraph was interesting...
Depends. COVID fucked trade so is the rise down to the cessation of that or independent of it?
 
So the DUP acted illegally when they ordered a stop to the post-Brexit checks on goods coming into NI. Well we all knew that, and they knew that....but where does this go? What are the consequences of such actions? If none, they (and other parties) will just keep pulling the same tricks...




I thought the last paragraph was interesting...
All the same the DUP are a shower of cunts.
 
Off duty policeman shot in Omagh while coaching kids football. Whatever way you vote (or not), whatever party you support let's not go down that road again please lads. We've been there it only leads to heartache, pain, sorrow and even more division. We should be working as hard as possible and doing everything to pull away from that. It's a sad night in Northern Ireland
 
Off duty policeman shot in Omagh while coaching kids football. Whatever way you vote (or not), whatever party you support let's not go down that road again please lads. We've been there it only leads to heartache, pain, sorrow and even more division. We should be working as hard as possible and doing everything to pull away from that. It's a sad night in Northern Ireland
Its awful....another reminder that these scumbags are still around and need very little (nothing) to kick off. I still believe the direction of Brexit and the NI Protocol will influence the actions of paramilitaries on both/all sides

It appears he is still alive...hopefully he'll pull through

 
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