England v USA – Fri 25th Nov, 19:00 | Group B | World Cup 2022

[dronefromsector7G]

Haven’t read the thread, but although I was pissed last night the biggest recollection I have of the performance was how utterly abysmal Mason Mount was, god knows how he played the full 90, how the fuck does he keep getting picked?

The general consensus is he has pics of Waistcoat fucking a donkey whilst wearing a rag shirt. We also think Waistcoat has pics of the FA head honchos gang-banging a dachshund

 

[Nellies left peg]

Yesterday’s dross is probably the best news Foden could have had.

He’s 99.9% likely to start against Wales and should he excel, he will be the starter moving forwards too.

Don’t hold your breath. It’s highly likely he’ll keep the same team of little favourites who have stunk the place out since the start of the season. If waistcoat had anything about him Mount would have been hooked at halftime despite not warranting a starting spot.Anyone would think waistcoat hadn’t been to a premier league game this season

 

[BlueAnorak]

Yesterday’s dross is probably the best news Foden could have had.

He’s 99.9% likely to start against Wales and should he excel, he will be the starter moving forwards too.

You think so?
Not a chance. Mount has compromising pictures of Garath. It's the only reasonable explanation.

 

[Manc123]

For me englands best midfield if all fit would be phillips, bellingham and foden.... Harsh on rice but he isnt a person who sits in the 6 (like a rodri) he has to play in a 2dm ...... In the tougher games id have phillips, rice bellingham with foden on wing. We needed ball controllers in there last night and he refused to bring them on or fetched them on too late..... I dont know what mount has on southgate but how the hell did he last 90 mins

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

You think so?
Not a chance. Mount has compromising pictures of Garath. It's the only reasonable explanation.

Yeah, it’s what he does. We’ve pretty much qualified, so he’ll play the players that he’s been moaned at to play.

Then he’ll probably revert to type, but if Phil has a blinder, it makes it harder for him to ignore.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I don’t understand the criticism of foden that he didn’t turn up in the euros , therefore he shouldn’t start now. He was only 20 and barely played. You don’t leave out your best players and young players often don’t play amazing in their first tournament.

 

[heslops barnet]

Comedy gold Stuart Pearce " mount was our best player of the front 3"

Dickhead

 

[BlueAnorak]

Yeah, it’s what he does. We’ve pretty much qualified, so he’ll play the players that he’s been moaned at to play.

Then he’ll probably revert to type, but if Phil has a blinder, it makes it harder for him to ignore.

It does but Southgate really needs to be given the boot. Sadly he's here till at least the next Euros.

 

[JOGAMIGMOG]

————-T-Rex——————
Alex-Arnold Coady Stones Fatty
————Rice——————-
Grealish Bellingham Saka
———-Foden—————-
————Wilson————-

Not a bad 11 for the Wales match

 

[simon23]

Golden Gen were always overrated, but I actually think this lot would have half a chance with decent management.

Foden's the obvious one, plays an ever larger part in winning 4 titles in 5 years in supposedly the toughest league in the world, but can't get in the England team? Mount in again but never does anything, Rashford's in despite being injured and out of form for the past 2 years, and so on. That doesn't happen in Spain, France, Brazil etc.

I actually like Mason Mount.....seems a ver good player.

Agree on eveything else especially the Golden Gen being overrated.....same. thing happening now with Bellingham as well....he will cost astronomical amounts and despite being a good player he isnt anything exceptional yet......same as Grealish as well

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

The technical ability of players like Foden in this country has outgrown old school mentality managers like Southgate, a man who’s only managerial position in senior football was relegating Middlesbrough from the premier league in the mid 2000’s.

Southgate might be a fairly young manager in terms of age but not in his mentality

England need a manager that’s more aligned with the modern game and favours technical ability over running around a lot

Spot-on. Southgate made a total fool of himself last night. The midfield was over-run and even wonder-boy Bellingham hardly got a touch. I hope he is not another flat-track bully from the Bundesliga. Henderson has not had a good game for years. Why is he even in the squad? Southgate has underachieved with the best English squad for decades.

 

[SebastianBlue]

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Comedy gold Stuart Pearce " mount was our best player of the front 3"

Pearce confirms what all City fans already know...when it comes to tactics he is a complete moron. His comments about Foden are beyond parody. He was the second worse manager I have seen at our club (behind Alan Ball). The fact he spent so long in the England set-up speaks volumes about the judgement of the fools at the FA.

 

[paulchapo]

Good to see the British fans aren't missing out on their usual handbags and chair throwing contest this world cup.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

England have a squad of players from all the top sides in the top league in the world. If England were a Prem team they’d probably be the second best team in the league behind City (midfield of Bellingham and Rice is probably a bit weak).

Yet Southgate has this team playing like a struggling bottom of the league team who are favourites for relegation.

It’s awful to watch.

The tactics across numerous games have been very poor. Especially when it’s really mattered:
Going 1-0 up early doors against Croatia in the last WC semis and we tried to defend that lead like we weren’t worthy of it and got beat… going 2-1 in extra time against a poor Denmark in the Euros semis and he took Grealish off and tried to sit back and defend the lead like we weren’t worthy of it and we were getting mullered and were hanging on at the end… going 1-0 up early doors against an average Italy in the Euros final and we barely attacked again all game and tried to defend the lead like we weren’t worthy of it and Italy took over the game and went on to win on penalties (after Southgate bringing on two penalty takers on the final whistle whose legs were cold)… we got twatted a number of times by average teams in the Nations League causing us to get relegated.

Doesn’t pick the best player he has at his disposal because he hasn’t got the tactical and technical nouse of how to use him properly.

Midfielders are all too far away from each other too often so when one of them has the ball he has no passing option immediately. As soon as a player gets the ball he should have at least two passing options upon his first touch.

There’s a disconnect between the defence and attack. The full backs are too deep and the two holding players are too deep so when the attackers get the ball they’re isolated.

If Southgate announced he was leaving the England job after this WC, I don’t think any Prem team would seriously consider him for their manager’s job. Even down the bottom, when Leicester were struggling at the start of the season they would never have pondered approaching Southgate, Wolves and Southampton who’ve just changed their managers wouldn’t either, if West Ham or Everton get rid of Moyes or Lampard neither would approach Southgate.

We have the squad to win the WC but we don’t have the manager because he won’t get the team to go and win a big game.

Great post. Southgate has failed to tackle the problem of not linking defence to attack for years. He is fixated on playing two defensive midfield players in most matches and none of his teams have any creativity. As you say he will not get a major club job when he quits. His style is 25 years out of date. Perhaps the reason so many players make poor managers is they can only replicate the tactics they played under themselves so they will always be behind the times.

 

[idahoblues]

Fantastic result for your boys. It'll be kin on kin in the valley tonight.

It was, however not that unusual

 

[splinter]

Good to see the British fans aren't missing out on their usual handbags and chair throwing contest this world cup.

Not enough white plastic chairs for my liking..get some great distance with them

 

[kun]

I see Brits abroad misbehaving again.

Yeah Southgate is a criminal

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Just seen the Southgate interview again on ITV where he was asked the question on why he didn't play Foden.

Clearly edited to make it look like a coherent answer instead of a stuttering bullshit excuse.

JOKE.

 

[Nellies left peg]

Just seen the Southgate interview again on ITV where he was asked the question on why he didn't play Foden.

Clearly edited to make it look like a coherent answer instead of a stuttering bullshit excuse.

JOKE.

It definitely has been edited because he was really flustered and wasn’t expecting to be called out