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The Album Review Club - *** Christmas Break Playlist (next album 7/1/26) ***
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I have a choice of 1,000s at my fingertips mate given my encyclopedic mastery of multiple genres. In fact, my favourite genre is female by a country mile :-). Very happy for you to put forward a Radiohead album. Just don't make it one of their later ones cause I defo don't like them and you need at least one batting for poor Thom.
I have a big range to choose from too. But my go tos are not what will go down well. Not that I am bothered as such, for myslef, but more out of respect for others, want it to be partly enjoyable.
Saddleworth2
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I wasn't entirely serious. I have maybe two or three I am toying with just now. Just go for what you love. If it brings just one person some pleasure then job done.I have a big range to choose from too. But my go tos are not what will go down well. Not that I am bothered as such, for myslef, but more out of respect for others, want it to be partly enjoyable.
I thought Rob was having a crack at Plastic Letters which I couldn't let slide unless you think early Blondie was not punk which you could make a case for albeit I thought it was punk with style and a rock edge.Hmmm. I don't think I can let this one slide, mate. :)
There are a goodly number of punk musicians who are proper but choose to play stylistically how they do. They also learn and get "better" (or more technically facile) over time too. Not only that, but it's hard to play super fast and accurately -- any traditional rock instrument, I'd bet. Hell, no one would call Pat Smear of Foo Fighters a shitty guitarist. He started off with The Germs, who were as punk and slovenly soncially as it got in the 80s. How about Ian McKaye of Minor Threat/Fugazi? Greg Ginn of Black Flag? Tremendous guitarists. And you are periously close to insulting my musical heroes Bob Mould and Grant Hart, which are fighting words!
Now, granted, studio production is hard to do a shoestring, and volume sometimes overcomes tunefulness live in tiny clubs, so more money and better acoustics beget better sonics, which is why punk often sounds better when it shifts to major labels. But hooks are hooks, and whether its The Circle Jerks or Vanessa Carlton, both have 'em regardless of genre IMO, and my choice of playing either artist is entirely dependent on mood.
I have to agree with your sentiment on punk although I actually prefer the production on Private Stock from Blondie albeit the label crashed despite the calibre of artists they had on their books and by then they were far more than New Wave.
A far better album than OK.
Downhill after OK though.
So you are saying OK was OK.
BimboBob
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Has Hell frozen over?I have to admit, I have never listened to a full album of theirs.
Maybe we Should have a Radiohead week. We have after all had the smiths, pixies etc.
Maybe we should have a 'face your fears' round. Radiohead for Fog, Jazz for a few, Reggae for Bimbo, Punk for Rob. Or Rap for Rob, UK bands for Rob, heck I'll even listen to a Foos album from the last decade.
Edit, I see we can possibly already scratch punk off that list ;)
BimboBob
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Because of one song. That's the only reason anyone mentioned them. One song.The Dead Kennedys were actually a pretty big deal in the UK. When I was growing up we used to wind our teachers up talking about them. When I saw that was the album on BHs thread I was going to pitch in but got distracted/saw my arse when I noticed what a poor score Central Reservation had got!
RobMCFC
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Aside from a few Bob Marley tracks, you could definitely put me down for reggae as well. Every song sounds the same, that um-chick, um-chick, um-chick sound repeated ad-infinitum could be used as a form of torture.I have to admit, I have never listened to a full album of theirs.
Maybe we Should have a Radiohead week. We have after all had the smiths, pixies etc.
Maybe we should have a 'face your fears' round. Radiohead for Fog, Jazz for a few, Reggae for Bimbo, Punk for Rob. Or Rap for Rob, UK bands for Rob, heck I'll even listen to a Foos album from the last decade.
Edit, I see we can possibly already scratch punk off that list ;)
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Aside from a few Bob Marley tracks, you could definitely put me down for reggae as well. Every song sounds the same, that um-chick, um-chick, um-chick sound repeated ad-infinitum could be used as a form of torture.
Right that's me nominating a bit of lovers rock next time round! Rob, gonna get you in touch with your inner Gregory Isaacs!! I'm now singing a bit of Night Nurse in the kitchen, Mrs Spires not impressed.
Seriously though was considering doing something from Trojan's great catalogue as a pick at some point.
Or maybe run the risk of a permanent thread ban with a bit of Eek-A-Mouse? :-)
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threespires
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Because of one song. That's the only reason anyone mentioned them. One song.
In fairness Bob it was two songs that got them talked about, though of the singles me and my mates liked Kill The Poor more than the two 'famous' ones.
BimboBob
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Just going to leave this here, why the fuck not. We all seem to be having fun this morning
Wish you hadn't.
RobMCFC
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When I regularly posted on another forum, some kind gentlemen sent 4 FOUR CDs worth of reggae that he'd put together. There were a few songs that made me think there was more to it than I initially thought, but it didn't convert me.Right that's me nominating a bit of lovers rock next time round! Rob, gonna get you in touch with your inner Gregory Isaacs!! I'm now singing a bit of Night Nurse in the kitchen, Mrs Spires not impressed.
Seriously though was considering doing something from Trojan's great catalogue as a pick at some point.
Or maybe run the risk of a permanent thread ban with a bit of Eek-A-Mouse? :-)
I love Bob Marley's "Iron, Lion, Zion" though.
Just for reference, I think my preferred genres (ordered popular to yuck) would be as follows.
I think I've got all the major areas covered and thinking about it, punk is far from the worst.
- Roots-rock/Americana
- Classic rock
- Blues
----------- Champions League Placings kind of line --------------
- Hard rock
- Indie (as long as it doesn't feature whiny British vocalists - sing man, just sing and move the fader up!)
- Pop with nice chords, hooks and harmony vocals
- Soul
- Jazz (not that I listen t a lot, but it's OK in small doses)
---------- Relegation Danger Line -----------------------
- Punk (the less screechy, more instrumental prowess, the better)
- DJs prancing about remixing stuff (although I must confess to having found a few tracks I like, but generally it's not my thing)
- Reggae
- Pop where's there's such flimsy instrumental backing, you wonder why they bothered - e.g. Craig David)
- Hip Hop and all that dub/trance bollocks
- Rap (even here, there's always an exception: "Gangsta's Paradises" OK, but Weird Al Yankovic's "Amish Paradise" is far better)
Saddleworth2
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Anyhow, given folk are commenting on Punk as a genre, I will give it my personal perspective. Like most genres there is a spectrum to like or dislike. Personally, I never got the po-go and spitting stuff. That was just gross. I liked early Jam, always loved the Stranglers and some of what The Clash did, The Ramones were ok. Not so much the Sex Pistols although I did get the raw energy of their sound. Souixie left me pretty cold. Still listened to Yes and Genesis throughout that period. I guess that makes me a dinosaur.
Saddleworth2
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where would:When I regularly posted on another forum, some kind gentlemen sent 4 FOUR CDs worth of reggae that he'd put together. There were a few songs that made me think there was more to it than I initially thought, but it didn't convert me.
I love Bob Marley's "Iron, Lion, Zion" though.
Just for reference, I think my preferred genres (ordered popular to yuck) would be as follows.
I think I've got all the major areas covered and thinking about it, punk is far from the worst.
- Roots-rock/Americana
- Classic rock
- Blues
----------- Champions League Placings kind of line --------------
- Hard rock
- Indie (as long as it doesn't feature whiny British vocalists - sing man, just sing and move the fader up!)
- Pop with nice chords, hooks and harmony vocals
- Soul
- Jazz (not that I listen t a lot, but it's OK in small doses)
---------- Relegation Danger Line -----------------------
- Punk (the less screechy, more instrumental prowess, the better)
- DJs prancing about remixing stuff (although I must confess to having found a few tracks I like, but generally it's not my thing)
- Reggae
- Pop where's there's such flimsy instrumental backing, you wonder why they bothered - e.g. Craig David)
- Hip Hop and all that dub/trance bollocks
- Rap (even here, there's always an exception: "Gangsta's Paradises" OK, but Weird Al Yankovic's "Amish Paradise" is far better)
Folk
Country
Electronic
Classical
Avante Garde
Alternative rock
fit in that list?
mancity2012_eamo
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I don’t mind saying I like a lot of their stuff.
Moon Shaped Pool is 2016 and is a decent album.I have a choice of 1,000s at my fingertips mate given my encyclopedic mastery of multiple genres. In fact, my favourite genre is female by a country mile :-). Very happy for you to put forward a Radiohead album. Just don't make it one of their later ones cause I defo don't like them and you need at least one batting for poor Thom.
I don’t mind saying I like a lot of their stuff.
mancity2012_eamo
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You see I wouldn’t have classified The Jam and Stranglers as punk they were what I referred to as contemporaries on the periphery of that and although The Ramones were American punk, it wasn’t the same thing either.Anyhow, given folk are commenting on Punk as a genre, I will give it my personal perspective. Like most genres there is a spectrum to like or dislike. Personally, I never got the po-go and spitting stuff. That was just gross. I liked early Jam, always loved the Stranglers and some of what The Clash did, The Ramones were ok. Not so much the Sex Pistols although I did get the raw energy of their sound. Souixie left me pretty cold. Still listened to Yes and Genesis throughout that period. I guess that makes me a dinosaur.
That’s my take on it. The Clash too, I could take to, no problem. Stranglers were brilliant, but like you I was still listening to Prog predominantly.
Saddleworth2
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As an ’outsider’ looking in to the genre, I certainly got the impression that they fell under the punk umbrella. Maybe I liked them because they weren’t typically punk.You see I wouldn’t have classified The Jam and Stranglers as punk they were what I referred to as contemporaries on the periphery of that and although The Ramones were American punk, it wasn’t the same thing either.
That’s my take on it. The Clash too, I could take to, no problem. Stranglers were brilliant, but like you I was still listening to Prog predominantly.
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All these mentions of the Dead Kennedys but no reference to the greatest punk song (IMO) of all time: California Über Alles.
FogBlueInSanFran
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“Let’s Lynch the Landlord” is actually my favo(u)rite from that record but CUA has the best lyrics IMO. But I was 15 when that record came out and look where I’m from :). You can imagine it was pretty appealing.All these mentions of the Dead Kennedys but no reference to the greatest punk song (IMO) of all time: California Über Alles.
Greatest punk song is a good discussion. Just thinking through it I can think of several contenders. And I’d bet Yanks and Brits would have a few nominations. Off the top of my head it’s “Blitzkrieg Bop” (greatest now, not personal fave) but I could be persuaded by a number of others.
RobMCFC
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To be fair, I wasn't trying to cover every genre, just give broad brush strokes,where would:
Folk
Country
Electronic
Classical
Avante Garde
Alternative rock
fit in that list?
Folk and country are definitely in that top roots-rock/Americana category (but the hillbilly and Steve Earle end of country, not that syrupy Nashville stuff - that would be a few pegs further down).
Electronic can be lumped in with the dub/trance bollocks.
Classical would probably somewhere in the mid section - I generally prefer music with lyrics but like most people, I love a good film score and the well-known classical pieces.
Alternative rock I class the same as indie - The Smithereens, whose song I nominated in the Christmas playlist - is a fantastic example of the alternative rock I like - loud crunchy guitars and the late Pat Dinizio could really sing.