North Stand Construction Discussion

mcfcstu said:
No looks like u just get cast aside to suit the 1894 group again like many fans have already been.
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What are you going on about? You're absolutely clueless. Making things up about the 1894 group that aren't true. 73 pages of mainly constructive comments and ideas for the North stand expansion and then you pop up from nowhere posting absolute sh*te about 1894. You don't know anything about 1894, how it's run, the work, time and effort put into it by ordinary City fans.

Go on Stu, tells what 1894 have done to you personally!
 
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Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
There is a lot of displacement with all these suggestions.
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I think there needs to be quite a lot of changes to improve a few things, as well as atmosphere, plus with a new stand there will be some changes. Better a lot of displacement in one big go than a half hearted one.
A fair few will complain but think the club should just bite the bullet, nobody guaranteed anyone seats for life.
 
mcfcstu said:
Have we not already tried this in the South Stand ?? Why should everything revolve around the 1894 group. There are other fans that have been going to games much longer and are fed up of being moved around all the time to suit others. So all them fans that sit in the North stand level 2 don't get a say in this then.
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The increase in capacity means that everyone gets a say and can be considered.
 
I don't recall anyone on here saying move all the current fans out of NSL2.

We don't know what is proposed 'BY THE CLUB' until the North Stand expansion plans are made public and the consultation takes place between the club and the fans. Until then everything discussed on here is pretty much a guess and up for discussion, that's all.
 
Some of the directors do read this thread. Why wouldn’t they? Maybe other members of staff at City who are involved with the North stand expansion also read this thread? It’s a good insight into what City fans want and their thinking. It might help shape the proposals for the North stand expansion? It might not! Outside of this thread fans who don’t read BM and this thread will get their chance to put their views and opinions forward when the club opens the public consultation. That includes you mcfcstu and all the other people who currently sit on NSL2.

As M18CTID says, 1894 have never asked the club to relocate fans to make way for 1894 members. What we’ve asked for is available seats together in 115 so we can get a group of singers together. But because of season ticket holders, citizen card holders and match day ticket sales, that’s not possible as there aren’t enough seats together. It has been possible to do that in CL group stage matches at the front of 115 when demand for those seats wasn’t high a few seasons back. I think we got between 30 to 50 seats together in the front two rows? Somebody else from 1894 can confirm that.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
You’re not with not reading or purposefully ignoring what I’m saying. If the ground has a better atmosphere we sell more tickets to other people in the long term including corporate customers. So if we have to offer a couple of thousand cheap tickets at the start to get the thing off the ground it will pay for itself in the long run. Nit picking on the dictionary definition of “loss leader” is nothing but pedantry and does not address that point which still stands. Just to avoid any further weird pedantry from you, I’m not saying the club WILL do it. I’m saying they SHOULD do it.
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Cross-subsidy I thing you were getting at.
 
Corky said:
Cross-subsidy I thing you were getting at.
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Nope. Loss leader actually. As I said right from the start.

Loss leader - Wikipedia

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“A loss leader (also leader)[1] is a pricing strategywhere a product is sold at a price below its market cost[2] to stimulate other sales of more profitable goods or services.”

But nobody except you cares mate.
 
jrb said:
What are you going on about? You're absolutely clueless. Making things up about the 1894 group that aren't true. 73 pages of mainly constructive comments and ideas for the North stand expansion and then you pop up from nowhere posting absolute sh*te about 1894. You don't know anything about 1894, how it's run, the work, time and effort put into it by ordinary City fans.

Go on Stu, tells what 1894 have done to you personally!
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woah woah woah, weren't you saying a couple of days ago that everyone is entitled to an opinion jrb and there should not be an attack on a fellow blue?

C'mon Dude. he's as entitled to his opinion as anyone else.
 
jrb said:
Some of the directors do read this thread. Why wouldn’t they? Maybe other members of staff at City who are involved with the North stand expansion also read this thread? It’s a good insight into what City fans want and their thinking. It might help shape the proposals for the North stand expansion? It might not! Outside of this thread fans who don’t read BM and this thread will get their chance to put their views and opinions forward when the club opens the public consultation. That includes you mcfcstu and all the other people who currently sit on NSL2.

As M18CTID says, 1894 have never asked the club to relocate fans to make way for 1894 members. What we’ve asked for is available seats together in 115 so we can get a group of singers together. But because of season ticket holders, citizen card holders and match day ticket sales, that’s not possible as there aren’t enough seats together. It has been possible to do that in CL group stage matches at the front of 115 when demand for those seats wasn’t high a few seasons back. I think we got between 30 to 50 seats together in the front two rows? Somebody else from 1894 can confirm that.
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I'm not sure it's a true barometer of all City fans tbh. I'd say there's only 1% of pretty active users on here who are seasoncard holders. At best.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Nope. Loss leader actually. As I said right from the start.

Loss leader - Wikipedia

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“A loss leader (also leader)[1] is a pricing strategywhere a product is sold at a price below its market cost[2] to stimulate other sales of more profitable goods or services.”

But nobody except you cares mate.
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By the same customer - you seemed to care enough to insult me about it. But at least you were big enough to admit you were wrong.
 
Northerndave said:
woah woah woah, weren't you saying a couple of days ago that everyone is entitled to an opinion jrb and there should not be an attack on a fellow blue?

C'mon Dude. he's as entitled to his opinion as anyone else.
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Everyone is, but not when it isn’t the truth.

mcfcstu said:
No looks like u just get cast aside to suit the 1894 group again like many fans have already been.
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When have other City fans ever been cast aside for 1894? I’ve never asked the club to give 1894 preferable treatment over other City fans. Neither have other 1894 members.

This thread is nothing but a discussion thread about the North stand expansion and ideas surrounding it. As others have posted, City have already finalised the plans, made their minds up, and will gauge the reaction of the fans to those plans. The club might make some changes or tweak the plans depending on the reaction and feedback to the plans from the fans. Maybe the feedback will be all positive, so the club won’t have to change or tweak anything at all? I’m all for the consultation with City fans. Everybody has a right to put their views and opinions across. The club is giving the fans a chance to do that.

One thing is certain. Nobody on here as far as I know has ‘specifically asked for the fans currently sat on SSL2 to be moved’.

PS. Apologies if I came across a bit abrupt. I just get annoyed when people post things that aren’t true about me. (and the other 1894 members)
 
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The blue phantom said:
I'm not sure it's a true barometer of all City fans tbh. I'd say there's only 1% of pretty active users on here who are seasoncard holders. At best.
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And even less who post on this thread. -)

It’s still a valuable, if a limited insight into the thoughts and ideas from City fans about everything surrounding the proposed North stand expansion. I think this thread has been a very positive and interesting read for the club and us.
 
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Corky said:
By the same customer - you seemed to care enough to insult me about it. But at least you were big enough to admit you were wrong.
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No, not to the same customer. That’s the bit you made up. You were wrong not me. Stop being a knob. We were having a good discussion until you jumped in being pedantic about an irrelevancy that nobody except you cares about.
 
The blue phantom said:
I'm not sure it's a true barometer of all City fans tbh. I'd say there's only 1% of pretty active users on here who are seasoncard holders. At best.
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Slightly off topic, but it would be helpful ( to some of us ) to know which posters have a season card or are regular match goers. It would make a difference to how some posts are considered.
Maybe some kind of annotation after their name?
Not trying to turn it into a ‘dick-measuring ’ contest, but it might help if opinions on the stadium etc are from people who actually know the place.
Having said that - I’ve been a regular since 1975, and I would still like to see a log-flume ride back into town after the game ;-)
 
All of this is possible and,with relative low cost practical.

Would the fencing for the away fans coach park need to be moved to maintain segregation ?

I'm really warming to this idea,you should get intouch with Danny Wilson and get it stress tested.
 
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