Joey Barton calling Ian Cheeseman on GMR, 06/07

Prestwich_Blue said:
It wasn't a defeat actually. We'd just drawn 1-1 at Watford, which relegated them. I was at the game with (among others) Heidi Pickup, who was then MCIVTA editor. We were on the platform at Watford Junction when we got text messages and phone calls about this.

I'm pretty sure that Barton was put up to it by Paul Tyrrell, who was Press Officer at the time. Pearce was no more popular within the club than with the fans. CEO Mackintosh seemingly hated him and even John Wardle had run out of patience with him over him taking the England U-21 job when we were in a relegation fight.

Had we not won 2 of those 3 away games at Boro, Newcastle & Fulham, we'd have been relegated that season and the financial consequences would have probably been disastrous. Whether that was Mackintosh's prime concern or whether the two of them just hated each other is anyone's guess but I don't think there's any way Barton would have done that off his own bat.

Tyrrell was as subtle as a flying brick and I've no doubt this was done to pressure Wardle into sacking Pearce. I guess it worked but I doubt Pearce would have survived anyway.
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Tyrrell... What a prick that man is.
 
jimharri said:
Ah, those were the days! I suppose it was nice that Barton "cared", but it was a bit rich, him calling others shit. The likes of Zidane weren't having nightmares about the possibility of facing Barton one day, were they?
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I'm sure a knee height studs-up tackle would frighten any player tbh
 
jimharri said:
Are you seriously suggesting that being decent for us at that time, made him a decent player? Fucking hell, Douglas Bader would have looked decent in that team.
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He can’t have been that bad he played for England , he was better than the average footballer .
 
Him and Distin were the stand out players.

Reminded of Barton by Jackie at the game yesterday.
 
RACHACE said:
Was that the season we scored 10 goals at home in the 19 games?
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It was bad, really bad.....I was 15-16 at the time and had been going to City since Maine Road, didn't have a seasonticket in those days.....got a couple of mates into City during that exact run of goalless matches, City were running a scheme where under 16s could get into 5 games for a fiver and all the matches I took my mates to were goalless. I'll always respect them for that
 
jimharri said:
Ah, those were the days! I suppose it was nice that Barton "cared", but it was a bit rich, him calling others shit. The likes of Zidane weren't having nightmares about the possibility of facing Barton one day, were they?
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Not really he was probably our best player at the time. Most of his team-mates were much weaker players and workers than Barton.

Barton was a fucking nutjob with a violent streak and an inflated ego but he was a decent footballer (maybe not by our standards today but certainly of the time). He would have had more than the solitary cap for England if he wasn't such a loose cannon.

He was probably a league average midfielder (possibly even slightly above average) from the mid 2000s to the early 2010s.
 
Jeez I remember this. I was at that Watford game and it was just some abysmal football. Didn’t he say something along the lines of if we are getting players from the Belgian league we are in trouble.

Weirdly I actually enjoyed the whole match day experience a lot more back then.
 
kun said:
Not really he was probably our best player at the time. Most of his team-mates were much weaker players and workers than Barton.

Barton was a fucking nutjob with a violent streak and an inflated ego but he was a decent footballer (maybe not by our standards today but certainly of the time). He would have had more than the solitary cap for England if he wasn't such a loose cannon.

He was probably a league average midfielder (possibly even slightly above average) from the mid 2000s to the early 2010s.
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But being the best of that bunch doesn't make you a decent player, surely? Or am I being harsh?

Not judging him by today's standards, by the way. I'm not THAT cruel,
 
Bobby the blue said:
Jeez I remember this. I was at that Watford game and it was just some abysmal football. Didn’t he say something along the lines of if we are getting players from the Belgian league we are in trouble.

Weirdly I actually enjoyed the whole match day experience a lot more back then.
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That Watford game was awful. We scored due to a complete balls up in their defence yet couldn't really create against a relegated side. They equalised and came close to winning at the end.
 
jimharri said:
But being the best of that bunch doesn't make you a decent player, surely? Or am I being harsh?

Not judging him by today's standards, by the way. I'm not THAT cruel,
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I mean, it doesn't but he happens to be. Burnley fans swear he was a great player. I thought he did a decent job at Newcastle and QPR, at least when he wasn't being a fucking idiot and getting sent off. Even had a half decent spell at Marseille.

We were shite beyond belief and, as our best player at the time and a hard worker, I think it's understandable that he thought his team mates were sub-par.

Despite all of his baggage, PL teams kept signing him, England even called him up despite the abundance of talent they had at the time (Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Hargreaves, Barry, Carrick etc.).
I think that shows he wasn't completely shite.
 
jimharri said:
Being picked for England is no guarantee of quality. I'd guess that any number of posters on here, given 10 minutes, could come up with a dozen average (at best) players who won England caps.
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Mate I played for City and Sunderland as a kid , i promise you it’s as not as easy as you think , Barton was great for us end of and just my opinion he should be held in a higher regard by are/our fans , as I have said in previous posts him and Dunne , Distin and James kept us up 2 years on the spin and without them we would have been relegated and probably not been brought by the people now who we owe are success to .
 
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