How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

Saddleworth2 said:
The more uncomfortable it gets in the Uk. The more people will shift if they see a possible way to improve their lives. Paradoxically that’s why many voted for Brexit in the first place as they believed the lies. Humility? Not in our life time I’m afraid.
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Humility wasn't in the Tory manifesto if I remember it correctly ..........bit like honesty............integrity .........etc etc etc
 
We have had two elections since 2016 and god knows how many PM's. Whatever was voted for hasn't been delivered because it was not workable or deliverable.
Teresa May compromise solution of staying in the Customs Union and slight difference to the Single Market would have avoided many of the problems.The main culprits have been the Tory party and the UK population keeps voting them in even though they couldn't implement what the wanted.
 
kippax_blueboy said:
We have had two elections since 2016 and god knows how many PM's. Whatever was voted for hasn't been delivered because it was not workable or deliverable.
Teresa May compromise solution of staying in the Customs Union and slight difference to the Single Market would have avoided many of the problems.The main culprits have been the Tory party and the UK population keeps voting them in even though they couldn't implement what the wanted.
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If you vote for a circus you WILL get some clowns.
Bojo, with a suitable hat, reminds me of the Benny Hill character Fred Scuttle.
 
bluethrunthru said:
The madness that is JRM explained here - anyone think its bad needs to know that this is only the start of things

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Just like the promises about ‘illegal’ immigration, the idea that you could simply take an axe to 40 years of negotiated, compromised, and agreed beneficial regulations that enable the efficient (as nearly as possible) of a single market and customs union, with their labyrinthine complexities and expect everything to be better than they were, shows either a total disregard of fact and a lack of understanding, or a naive ignorance, or worse, an attempt to make it more difficult for any kind of re-joining the EU.
It looks very like scorched earth to me.
 
somapop said:
Maybe behind a paywall but possibly not…

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/me...salvageable-and-that-well-rejoin-the-eu-soon/
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“The Brexiteers got everything – everything – they asked for. Detachment from the single market and customs union. Full parliamentary sovereignty. The end of freedom of movement. And it was, and is, never, ever enough for them. If Brexit is dead, as Jacobs says, it is its loudest and most implacable of supporters who killed it.”
 
Didsbury Dave said:
“The Brexiteers got everything – everything – they asked for. Detachment from the single market and customs union. Full parliamentary sovereignty. The end of freedom of movement. And it was, and is, never, ever enough for them. If Brexit is dead, as Jacobs says, it is its loudest and most implacable of supporters who killed it.”
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An almost poetic irony.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Then bale and blame it all on Labour and Remainers
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Yep. Leave the country in shit-state and point the finger when the time is right to get themselves back in. However, I think they’re going to go even further than stupid would as certain elements of the Tory party are only thinking about now as if they get it right, they won’t have to worry about tomorrow.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Knowing the timeline, the Tories want to burn regulation and plunge the country into crisis. All while making a few more quid.

Got to be stopped.
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Sunak is clueless. If there is a bonfire of regulations then it will be even more difficult to trade with the E.U! as their regs are more strict.
(I said more strict not Maastricht!)
 
resume your seats folks the riddle has been solved............... I don't think I have ever had a single bottle of British fizz tbh

 
Grassland Blue said:
Sunak is clueless. If there is a bonfire of regulations then it will be even more difficult to trade with the E.U! as their regs are more strict.
(I said more strict not Maastricht!)
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I particularly like the idea that they don't even know how many laws will be affected - so they are specifically passing a law without knowing the outcome.
The Lords are going to have a field day with it, even if the Commons then overrule them.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I particularly like the idea that they don't even know how many laws will be affected - so they are specifically passing a law without knowing the outcome.
The Lords are going to have a field day with it, even if the Commons then overrule them.
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It makes the hurried passing of the Dangerous Dogs Act look like some sort of cold eyed critical assessment of a situation not a knee jerk reaction that basically failed to identify exactly what a dangerous dog is
 
bluethrunthru said:
It makes the hurried passing of the Dangerous Dogs Act look like some sort of cold eyed critical assessment of a situation not a knee jerk reaction that basically failed to identify exactly what a dangerous dog is
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the courts are going to be a mess for years as lawyers argue whether changes have happened to a specific law.
 
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