Ref Watch

danielwood5 said:
He's also full of shit, the Rodri handball wasnt a 'howler', it was the correct decision according to the bullshittery of the laws that were in place last year.
Don't get me wrong, in any other year that would be a handball but because of the 't-shirt line' law they brought in to help out VAR the fact that the video replay showed that the ball may have touched above that imaginary line meant it couldn't be a penalty under their stupid VAR guidance.
The fake outrage over the Rodri incident is just gaslighting to make the scousers feel better and to gloss over the mess they've been making with changing the rules to better suit VAR.
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Yeah, not a fan of calling it a howler - although I wouldn't have been surprised if it was given as a pen. Considering how close it was, odd to frame that as a howler
 
Blueboy73 said:
The law is fine, the issue on Saturday was the incompetent/spineless/cheating **** Attwell failed to do what he is very well paid to do which is to follow it.
All of this shite about subjective/grey areas/open to interpretation is bollocks.

The law was changed 2 years ago when we benefitted against Villa when Rodri came from an offside position to tackle Mings and set up Bernardo.
Mings wasn't in control of the ball as stated in the laws at the time so the goal was correctly given
The referee followed the law even though Walton made a tit of himself live on air by saying that referee didn't.
The law was changed because of this.

There was an outcry then to ensure this couldn't happen again.
Saturdays scenario won't happen again providing the referee follows the law and does what he is paid to do.
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Nah, Mings 100% had control - that was why the law was changed. Mings trapped the ball, then had a second and third touch before being challenged.
 
Blueboy73 said:
The law is fine, the issue on Saturday was the incompetent/spineless/cheating **** Attwell failed to do what he is very well paid to do which is to follow it.
All of this shite about subjective/grey areas/open to interpretation is bollocks.

The law was changed 2 years ago when we benefitted against Villa when Rodri came from an offside position to tackle Mings and set up Bernardo.
Mings wasn't in control of the ball as stated in the laws at the time so the goal was correctly given
The referee followed the law even though Walton made a tit of himself live on air by saying that referee didn't.
The law was changed because of this.

There was an outcry then to ensure this couldn't happen again.
Saturdays scenario won't happen again providing the referee follows the law and does what he is paid to do.
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When you say about the referee doing what he is “paid to do”….?
 
Hopper was poor there is no doubt we get treated differently than the opponents There is a deliberate tactic being used against City if we are getting momentum. Everton being the best example, an player will fake injury and either we stupidity stop play or the ref does, the ref goes over and generally the player makes a miraculous recovery or they get treated for cramp crucially they don’t leave the field. Last night hooper stop play when City were moving forward to check upon a Spurs player who appeared to be “injured” on the touchline this is despite Spurs not stopping play when they had the ball He ran over to him and yep he had a miracle cure
There needs to be a ruling that if player receives treatment by physio or another player, or play is stop due to a possible injury the player has to leave the play for 5 minutes Let’s see then if they want to fake injury then
 
Gordyola said:
Hopper was poor there is no doubt we get treated differently than the opponents There is a deliberate tactic being used against City if we are getting momentum. Everton being the best example, an player will fake injury and either we stupidity stop play or the ref does, the ref goes over and generally the player makes a miraculous recovery or they get treated for cramp crucially they don’t leave the field. Last night hooper stop play when City were moving forward to check upon a Spurs player who appeared to be “injured” on the touchline this is despite Spurs not stopping play when they had the ball He ran over to him and yep he had a miracle cure
There needs to be a ruling that if player receives treatment by physio or another player, or play is stop due to a possible injury the player has to leave the play for 5 minutes Let’s see then if they want to fake injury then
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The head injury is the latest trick being used. Play must be stopped and I reckon most managers are getting players to do this to break up play.
 
threadkiller said:
Nah, Mings 100% had control - that was why the law was changed. Mings trapped the ball, then had a second and third touch before being challenged.
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It was because Mings attempted to play the ball.
Found this article, I thought it was about having control.
The law was changed but the point was the referee (Moss) applied the law correctly, something Attwell failed to do on Saturday.
www.thesun.co.uk

Prem release statement over why Rodri was NOT offside before Man City opener

PREMIER League chiefs have released a statement defending the decision to let Manchester City’s controversial opener against Aston Villa stand on Wednesday night. Villa were fuming and manage…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk
threadkiller said:
Nah, Mings 100% had control - that was why the law was changed. Mings trapped the ball, then had a second and third touch before being challenged.
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threadkiller said:
Nah, Mings 100% had control - that was why the law was changed. Mings trapped the ball, then had a second and third touch before being challenged.
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It was because Mings attempted to play the ball.
Found this article, I thought it was about having control.
The law was changed but the point was the referee applied the law correctly, something Attwell failed to do on Saturday.
www.thesun.co.uk

Prem release statement over why Rodri was NOT offside before Man City opener

PREMIER League chiefs have released a statement defending the decision to let Manchester City’s controversial opener against Aston Villa stand on Wednesday night. Villa were fuming and manage…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk
threadkiller said:
Nah, Mings 100% had control - that was why the law was changed. Mings trapped the ball, then had a second and third touch before being challenged.
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Gordyola said:
Hopper was poor there is no doubt we get treated differently than the opponents There is a deliberate tactic being used against City if we are getting momentum. Everton being the best example, an player will fake injury and either we stupidity stop play or the ref does, the ref goes over and generally the player makes a miraculous recovery or they get treated for cramp crucially they don’t leave the field. Last night hooper stop play when City were moving forward to check upon a Spurs player who appeared to be “injured” on the touchline this is despite Spurs not stopping play when they had the ball He ran over to him and yep he had a miracle cure
There needs to be a ruling that if player receives treatment by physio or another player, or play is stop due to a possible injury the player has to leave the play for 5 minutes Let’s see then if they want to fake injury then
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FIFA announced at the same time as the more publicised referees explaining VAR overturns, that they are going to be clamping down on time wasting. Whether it will be actually addressing it or just adding more time on World Cup style, time will tell.

I’d like to see a trial where physios are allowed on the pitch while play continues. Or even more radical, if you want treatment, you hobble off the pitch. If you’re incapable of that then you’re obviously too injured to carry on, so they stretch you off and you stay off.
 
Gordyola said:
Hopper was poor there is no doubt we get treated differently than the opponents There is a deliberate tactic being used against City if we are getting momentum. Everton being the best example, an player will fake injury and either we stupidity stop play or the ref does, the ref goes over and generally the player makes a miraculous recovery or they get treated for cramp crucially they don’t leave the field. Last night hooper stop play when City were moving forward to check upon a Spurs player who appeared to be “injured” on the touchline this is despite Spurs not stopping play when they had the ball He ran over to him and yep he had a miracle cure
There needs to be a ruling that if player receives treatment by physio or another player, or play is stop due to a possible injury the player has to leave the play for 5 minutes Let’s see then if they want to fake injury then
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I wonder what would have transpired had City players set about kicking the Spurs players in exactly the same way for which Hooper took an age to draw a yellow card. I suspect the first tackle would have connected with a yellow and it wouldn't have taken as long, nor would a repeat of a mandatory issue of a yellow have been given the 'can't book two in five minutes' mantra so favoured by refs, regardless of what the LotG say.
And what would have happened to a City player had they attempted to put a Spurs player on the slab in the manner Hojbjerg tried on Rico?
 
HypnoticBlue said:
It's not anything that hasn't been said already, but nice to see that it's in print somewhere, but it also makes it all the more annoying that we have corruptly had 3 points taken from us.
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To add to the three points against Brentford. There were several occasions where City could have had a penalty but they were again waved away. The video of the Brentford player with the ball in both hands directly above the line was apparently " inconclusive ". City haven't played well in the few games before the Spurs game but time and again the same methods are employed to hold City back. The reverse for certain other teams and people wonder why City struggle when they are going through a rough patch but " mentality monsters " continue picking up points.
 
I have said this many times, the ‘clear and obvious error’ threshold for VAR allows them to continue to attempt to influence match outcomes via officiating.

The ref didn’t immediately give the penalty on Grealish and no doubt they will come out later and say VAR found there was no “clear and obvious error” to require the ref to via the incident.
 
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