PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

The strategy from the league and cartel is to smear us with as many allegations as they can - it is a campaign for reputational harm with a view to affecting our performances on the pitch. Arsenal, United and Liverpool being the lead proponents, which should not be a surprise to most. I don’t think the merits of the allegations would factor into this. After all, if made out, I am sure the vast majority of clubs in this league could have similar allegations made out against themselves. Consider the structure United allegedly used to pay Ronaldo.

One point that fans of other clubs don’t seem to understand is that losing City, and setting a precedent which disincentivises investment (from teams such as Newcastle and even Spurs - c.f. Chelsea’s near half a billion spending which is apparently fine), would be sacrificing the Premier League’s period of dominance, its excitement and ultimately the league’s TV money.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the final straw which leads to the uncovering of systemic corruption at the heart of English football. Not the corruption that rival fans thinks stems with City, but the uncovering of what will come as no surprise to our fans who have watched whilst under the microscope: an economic, media influenced, US backed agenda that only publicly reared its head with the Super League proposal, but goes much deeper. We all know what I’m talking about.
 
PrezIke said:




Wonder if something is going on here with the motivation behind this that we don’t understand just yet.

The problem with the PL seeking to use us as what feels like a scapegoat to throw off criticism of the league as an example of wealth inequality (i.e. PL wealth gap, spending vs. other Europe leagues) and to hide their own flaws in addressing this is that if they go through with this and hand out severe punishment it will be fool’s gold, laced with hypocrisy that could be a sort of nihilistic, pyrrhic type of victory with the costs outweighing the benefits.

Maguire’s tweet on the circumstances with the UK government white paper report on football governance reform also shows plenty of motivation for the PL to show they don’t need an independent investigator from the government.

Combine both Maguire’s claim with Stefan’s tweet and could that not then imply the PL may not truly plan to hand out as severe a punishment from these accusations as we think? In order to provide some cover with hope of the government backing off.

The severity and length of the charges leads me to suspect this may also be about getting City to come to the table to make a deal.

The PL claims we have resisted the investigation, according to their accusations, and we are aware this was the approach with UEFA that led to CAS. Yes, we know the club responded claiming they have cooperated, but that’s surely lawyer talk, as they would never admit they have not, publicly.

If we don’t make a deal and fight it this will drag out and be misery for City, its fans and I’d argue the PL. You don’t want this case lingering around and distracting attention, unless you truly hope to do all they can to prevent City from success as a club, which isn’t entirely out of the realm of possibility for various reasons we could go through easily.
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The way it was announced could be a smokescreen to hide the fact we are working ‘with’ the PL to put all this to bed once and for all, I mean where does it go if an Arsenal supporting independent investigator finds no case to answer or us guilty on very small charges ? The part I find most supportive and interesting in all this is that the allegations go all the way back to the start of the takeover, meaning our owners have a potential clean slate and the PL a clean competition, which is also coming under scrutiny after Chelsea’s spending
 
chaddblue said:
And what happens to the club that finished 5th or 3rd bottom? They then sue the PL for lost earnings... it opens a whole can of worms which is one of the reasons it won't happen
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Yep. Of course nobody thinks about the clubs who don't make it into Europe or end up getting relgated.
 
give it to gordon said:
On what grounds did they decide to investigate City ? What made them think City must be cheating ?

do they investigate every PL club this deeply ? If not than it is a clear case of a witch hunt.

What is the pl views on money laundering for guns as shirt sponsors ?
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there is no way they treat every club like this and carry out such investigations. it would be an industry in its self going to this level of detail atheist takes 4 years to put together
 
HolisticJim said:
My dad's 70 now. I've never ben to a match without him.
I think when he isn't here anymore my love for the game will go with him due to the way the sports has gone.

I'm tired of all the allegations etc. It's gone beyond banter now. I wish the club would sue everyone for slander tbh.
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Football isn't what it used to be, not just city but football In general
 
FightLikeAGirl said:
So what happens if you lose the case? All the trophies get given to whoever came second?
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I think they’d have to take us out of the equation and our results. It wouldn’t automatically go to Liverpool as an example. But it’ll not come to that I do t think, fans of other clubs will claim it’ll happen but City are not stupid, we employed the two blokes who wrote the FFP rules so although we may of gone in to grey areas or touched the line, I’m sure we can prove we never crossed it.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
At this point I'm over worrying about this shit - it's been going on for a decade if not more now.

I don't even have the desire to defend the club within circles of friends who are supporters of other clubs. Wasted energy - as new allegations seem to appear 12 months later.
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Just make shit up, say you’ve heard from a reliable source that Pep has a 25 mill signing on fee every season .
Hope it’s not true tho!
 
domalino said:
People inside CFG also thought we were fine in 2014 and nothing would come of the leaked documents.


They are bullish 100% of the time, which makes them a fairly useless weathervane.

Despite the optimism I find it incredibly hard to believe that this KC, who by all accounts is a serious person, is going to waste 4 years of his time and stake his reputation on a bunch of trumped up charges against an opposition that's shown it is highly litigious.

98 bullshit charges that get knocked over in court doesn't just make him look bad, it would open up everyone involved to some very serious countersuits.
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Did the KC do the investigation for the PL or is the head of the investigation the FA has requested? The independent panel as we've called it?
 
BillyShears said:
They didn't even do Soriano the courtesy of giving him the charges before giving them to the media and specifically to certain journalists. City have won 4 of the last 5 PL titles and that's how the league chose to handle it. That means we have absolutely no relationship of any real respect with the people running the league, and that's squarely at Soriano's door as he is the guy who sits in all those meetings.
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They must be a hoot....

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When they throw 100+ charges at you its basically the same tactic as the the tax office use when they audit a company. They already know what the end result of the "investigation" will be even before it started, and just throw as many vague accusations against us as possible knowing it will be impossible for us to fully clear our name in all of them. We all know the only purpose of all this is to take City down, not make an unbiased investigation. This was always going to be the case in a racist and xenophobic country as England, zero chance any of this would have happened if our owners last name was "Smith". How many other clubs have they spent 4 years investigating until they find something? None.
Lets see what the end result is, but I guess we will see a massive point reduction taking us out of all European competitions for the next season. The massive damage to our brand is already done. Really hope City plan their revenge and sue everyone.
 
Imagine how Pool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea owners are laughing now...

and their fans.

Khaldoon needs to make these allegations go away ASAP.
I was already on anger management due to yesterday's absymal performance but this now on top, last thing we needed.

If any of this sticks Soriano has to walk for a start. it was his task to manage PL relationship and by the look of it they shit on his head not even briefing him about all this.
 
argyle said:
We will not be going after the PL or burning it down. Just like we didn't go after UEFA and burn that down.

That's just silly, chest beating fan talk.

We'll fight the charges and that will be that.

I don't know how the PL can prove we consealed payments to managers and players without proof.

They will likely fine us heavily for non-compliance with the investigation.
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It's an interesting question.

If Sheikh Mansour felt like topping up Mancini's or Yaya's salary by £5m per year, how does the PL have the ability to find out or prove it?

They could have emails from the leak discussing it, but they can't have any financial records which makes proving it impossible.
 
Dribble said:
Because the Hateful Eight have demanded the PL go after City. I sense the PL don't want/need this, but if your "founding members" demand their competition back, what can the PL do?

If they piss off the red shirt mafia & they threaten to setup a new English Super League (Essentially the PL under new ownership/stewardship), how else could the PL react?
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The PL have never been in such as strong position given what happened with the ESL. These clubs (ours included) thought they were all powerful. It took about 24 hours for that myth to be debunked. The PL have nothing to fear from these clubs, the clubs don’t have the power they thought they had. If the PL thought they couldn’t win this, I don’t believe any amount of pressure from United, Liverpool etc would make them do this.
 
Apparently we can fight our case with independent inquiry they just take the evidence and make up their own mind! City really are going down with a Billion in the bank.
 
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