PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

This scenario makes sense as anti competitive as it is with Newcastle being the latest perhaps to begin a journey to rattle the cage if their money trail and acumen of the owners is near ours however we have done ok without an independent regulator since 2008.

Are you suggesting Tolmie that this action by the Premier League is more politically motivated than a simple matter of us supposedly breaking rules when we knew what the rules were to force a change in the way the Premier League is overseen?

It's a power play by the Premier League, pressured in to keeping the investigation open despite the CAS verdict by the usual suspects.

The majority of the rest will come along for the ride, so long as it doesn't impact their own finances.

If taking out City is also part of the equation, then they are cool about that.

It's self-preservation. No difference to the mafia killing one of their own, despite attending weddings of family, they won't think twice.

The government will back off if the Premier League are seen to be so righteous as to kill the Champions of England.
 
The rule book changes every year, so you need to cross reference the rule book from the specific year the charges relate to. Obviously we haven't actually been charged with things like grass length.
Although it does look like we're charged with not entering the fa cup ;)
 
The closest you get to see about how the club feels will be clear to see in Pep’s demeanour in Fridays press conference. If he is bullish he’s been given good, strong news, which he believes, if he isn’t then god help us

He's always fucking miserable,so that won't help my mind the way his demeanour is Friday I'm afraid
 
Leterme is as dirty as they come. Also sits (or at least sat) on one of the VW Group boards which obviously ties in nicely with Bayern. What he has to say on the matter means fuck all.
What bullocks. Leterme sat on the sustainibility board.
Volkswagen is owned mostly by Porsche, the German region Lower Saxony (20%) and Qatar(17%). If you want to build conspiracy theories I would build some with that informations.

Can I help you? Doesn't a qatar group want to buy United?
 
The closest you get to see about how the club feels will be clear to see in Pep’s demeanour in Fridays press conference. If he is bullish he’s been given good, strong news, which he believes, if he isn’t then god help us
I’d buzz if Pep said the club have come up with some “ridiculous” tactics to deal with it all.
 
What bullocks. Leterme sat on the sustainibility board.
Volkswagen is owned mostly by Porsche, the German region Lower Saxony (20%) and Qatar(17%). If you want to build conspiracy theories I would build some with that informations.

Can I help you? Doesn't a qatar group want to buy United?
Sorry, who are you defending Bayern,VW or Leterme with a big list of allegations against him? That man is dishonest and has worked with the Qataris. Qatar Airways are still a Bayern commercial partner last I looked(official airline partner). Not sure how much of a motive that is though. That's more relevant to the PSG "mistake" when he somehow failed one of the biggest parts of his job: "Oh... So QTA is overvalued???... Must have missed that, sorry boss". I just don't think he can be trusted on his word. He has said the Premier League have a stronger case against City in general, seems far more vocal than he was about PSG(did he not comment or did he comment but nobody cared?), who were actually let off on a technicality.
 
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The closest you get to see about how the club feels will be clear to see in Pep’s demeanour in Fridays press conference. If he is bullish he’s been given good, strong news, which he believes, if he isn’t then god help us
He might also be exasperated by the affair regardless of what he has been told.
I don’t see him going before the end of his contract as I believe he will have been told it’s a continuation of the witch-hunt, which he has referenced himself a number of times
I would be surprised if he was bullish, whatever he has been told
 
We can't do now it's gone to far,got to smash the cartel to bits and and take no shit,otherwise it will just carry on,id rather us get relegated than accept any settlement from the bastards...
Agreed. Love that vinnie standing up for us and with us. No way can we settle and take “a pinch” as we did before as this won by cheating crap we are all getting from other fans will just go on forever.
 
It's a power play by the Premier League, pressured in to keeping the investigation open despite the CAS verdict by the usual suspects.

The majority of the rest will come along for the ride, so long as it doesn't impact their own finances.

If taking out City is also part of the equation, then they are cool about that.

It's self-preservation. No difference to the mafia killing one of their own, despite attending weddings of family, they won't think twice.

The government will back off if the Premier League are seen to be so righteous as to kill the Champions of England.
Another thought is what would be the impact to the UK government and locally Manchester if Abu Dhabi pulled out of all investments and loans etc, due to the treatment of them as City owners
 
It's a power play by the Premier League, pressured in to keeping the investigation open despite the CAS verdict by the usual suspects.

The majority of the rest will come along for the ride, so long as it doesn't impact their own finances.

If taking out City is also part of the equation, then they are cool about that.

It's self-preservation. No difference to the mafia killing one of their own, despite attending weddings of family, they won't think twice.

The government will back off if the Premier League are seen to be so righteous as to kill the Champions of England.
I think its hard not to see it way and if so who pressured them.

I doubt the Premier League will come out of this well no matter how its determined , they always reap what they sow albeit some of the stakeholders as you say will tow the party line.
 
It's a power play by the Premier League, pressured in to keeping the investigation open despite the CAS verdict by the usual suspects.

The majority of the rest will come along for the ride, so long as it doesn't impact their own finances.

If taking out City is also part of the equation, then they are cool about that.

It's self-preservation. No difference to the mafia killing one of their own, despite attending weddings of family, they won't think twice.

The government will back off if the Premier League are seen to be so righteous as to kill the Champions of England.

Not sure I buy this independent regulator argument.

The regulator covers many topics, and the PL charging us doesn't cover any of them, apart from financial sustainability. Even that I am not sure about.

The UAE will have more impact on yes or no to a financial regulator than the PL taking some random action after 20 years of inaction on the WP issues .... All imho, of course.
 
Why do we need this to go to court?

If we have done nothing wrong it should be a fairly quick and easy case to conclude in our favor.
They're out to stiff us regardless of guilt. Because the Premier League are judge, jury & executioner presiding over the case, they believe they're untouchable & whatever they decide, City will just have to suck it up.

It's like we're Blackadder, the PL are General Melchett & FFP is Speckled Jim! :-/

 
We don't know who voted which way, we only know that all 3 were deemed to be fair and impartial.

The point is not that City had a man on the board, it's that at this level people are grown up enough to know everyone's going to have tangential connections somewhere in a small industry and it doesn't get in the way of doing their jobs fairly.

True, but how do you think everyone outside of City would react if the panel was led by City season ticket holders?
 
It's a power play by the Premier League, pressured in to keeping the investigation open despite the CAS verdict by the usual suspects.

The majority of the rest will come along for the ride, so long as it doesn't impact their own finances.

If taking out City is also part of the equation, then they are cool about that.

It's self-preservation. No difference to the mafia killing one of their own, despite attending weddings of family, they won't think twice.

The government will back off if the Premier League are seen to be so righteous as to kill the Champions of England.

The same government which is relying on £50bn in investments from the UAE?
 
As usual its the fans that will suffer if things don't work out

Players and coaches can move on, owners and shareholders can sell up.... But it's the fans who 100% have done absolutely nothing wrong and who are far more emotionally invested than those mentioned that will have to live with the consequences
 
They're out to stiff us regardless of guilt. Because the Premier League are judge, jury & executioner presiding over the case, they believe they're untouchable & whatever they decide, City will just have to suck it up.

It's like we're Blackadder, the PL are General Melchett & FFP is Speckled Jim! :-/


IF they find us guilty despite evidence we present that dispels that I would agree, but I don't think for one second the Premier League would be that utterly moronic to do so, do you honesty think they would destroy one of world sports greatest and most profitable leagues?

Because if they blatantly disregard our overwhelming evidence, we would hit them with one of the biggest law suits ever seen in sport, that's simply not going to happen.
 
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