What has the UK become under the far right influence?

Rascal said:
As ever its a juxtaposition of unrelated events

Its like

a/ why do foreigners get houses

b/ why do we have homeless veterans.

What is real though is that a vast majority of the people in this country are scared. We have people frightened to put the heating on, people scared about their next bill. Families worried about how they can feed their kids, never mind buy them new school shoes. Today at Asda i bought food from the cheap bin, times are hard and they could well get much worse. I am lucky I have a few quid in the bank, but many families do not and live from day to day hoping nothing goes wrong. If you have nothing spare and you have a major event pay out like the cooker breaking, you are in shit street pal, fucking big time because there is no spare cash. Inflation is ravaging the daily expenditure of normal people. My weekly food bill for me was about £50, today it was £68. I do not live a lavish lifestyle, I buy cheap.

As for your instances, of course I would help as much as I can to help those caught up in the natural disaster in Turkey, it might only be a Quid in a collecting tin, but it would be heartfelt. I would also hope all governments helped out in whatever they can.

The Ukraine is different, I have been to Kharkiv to see City play Shaktar and loved the place, the people were wonderful and it was one of my favourite ever away trips. I saw on TV a bomb hit the square where we had been drinking and it home hard that war is horrible.

However I am not comfortable with us sending Tanks there, I am not comfortable with us becoming involved in what I believe is an unwinnable war. It needs negotiation not bombs. It always pisses me off we can afford arms but have homeless veterans and people sitting in their houses scared to turn the heating on, kids going hungry, our NHS in crisis and a nation that feels it is falling apart.

I am also concerned Zelensky is not the benevolent freedom fighter he appears, he has banned trade unions and has an authoritarian streak.

Putin though is a danger to the world, he seems quite mad.
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Great post Rasc..
But how do you negotiate with a mad man?
 
Rascal said:
As ever its a juxtaposition of unrelated events

Its like

a/ why do foreigners get houses

b/ why do we have homeless veterans.

What is real though is that a vast majority of the people in this country are scared. We have people frightened to put the heating on, people scared about their next bill. Families worried about how they can feed their kids, never mind buy them new school shoes. Today at Asda i bought food from the cheap bin, times are hard and they could well get much worse. I am lucky I have a few quid in the bank, but many families do not and live from day to day hoping nothing goes wrong. If you have nothing spare and you have a major event pay out like the cooker breaking, you are in shit street pal, fucking big time because there is no spare cash. Inflation is ravaging the daily expenditure of normal people. My weekly food bill for me was about £50, today it was £68. I do not live a lavish lifestyle, I buy cheap.

As for your instances, of course I would help as much as I can to help those caught up in the natural disaster in Turkey, it might only be a Quid in a collecting tin, but it would be heartfelt. I would also hope all governments helped out in whatever they can.

The Ukraine is different, I have been to Kharkiv to see City play Shaktar and loved the place, the people were wonderful and it was one of my favourite ever away trips. I saw on TV a bomb hit the square where we had been drinking and it home hard that war is horrible.

However I am not comfortable with us sending Tanks there, I am not comfortable with us becoming involved in what I believe is an unwinnable war. It needs negotiation not bombs. It always pisses me off we can afford arms but have homeless veterans and people sitting in their houses scared to turn the heating on, kids going hungry, our NHS in crisis and a nation that feels it is falling apart.

I am also concerned Zelensky is not the benevolent freedom fighter he appears, he has banned trade unions and has an authoritarian streak.

Putin though is a danger to the world, he seems quite mad.
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And why we have to take him down…
 
Indaparkside said:
It’s like the fuckers when brexit was being decided they’d sit in the pub every day spending there universal credit/pip I’m voting brexit cunts coming over here taking our jobs, if you offered the lazy good for nowt cunts a job for £800 a week they wouldn’t do it
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Amazing how the ignorant don’t even know PIP is not a means tested or work related benefit.
You can receive full PIP and be fully employed on £800 a week plus.
 
snorky said:
Great post Rasc..
But how do you negotiate with a mad man?
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You can not. There is also little to be gained by upsetting a mad man, you can not reason nor influence, you can not placate nor should you appease.

Personally my approach would be to undermine, try and get his inner circle on board because they will have their own eyes on power. How that is done is not for me to comment, its for the world of MI5, James Bond etc.
 
mexico1970 said:
Oh goodie, another English bashing thread.

There's never enough of them on the front page.
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Why did you take umbrage at the thread title?

What has the UK become could mean many things, some of which you may very well blow your own trumpet over.

I take it you see yourself as a patriot, my issue is If patriotism is politicised, so is anti-patriotism. “That’s unpatriotic” has long been a cry to silence dissent, formally through laws, informally through social pressure. Presenting patriotism as an apolitical sentiment infused with devotion to a place or tradition only makes such silencing easier. The anti woke become the cancel culture afficiando's How weird is UK politics?

“O, let my land be a land where Liberty is crowned with no false patriotic wreath.” Langston Hughes.
 
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