Thanks for that @domalino. Insightful information and a huge hurdle to get over for the premier. So we are back in the grey. We know you did something but can’t prove it.I read through the entire CAS award today and I really think they lay out everything we need to know about this case.
Specifically, CAS asked what evidence Mr Lindsay, UEFA’s financial witness would need to prove their allegations. And he replied -
"[...] that exercise requires extensive access to accounting records that - - I talk about reviewing contemporaneous emails, relevant documents, board papers, where in essence it would have to be a very wide-ranging review to try to determine whether or not these payment mechanisms happened or not and it would require access not only to the books and records of the Club, of which I've seen very little, but more importantly it would require access to the books and records of both of the sponsorsThere is simply no way that the Premier League have been rooting through the accounts and bank records of the other parties involved here. Whether that’s sponsors, or Mancini, or Fordham, or players.
It would require police powers to find City guilty of these charges.
What we need is a slogan on the side of a redundant red bus, with words like, "City are innocent", or "Premier League mafia", or something similar....
He actually does. But, obviously, I'm sworn to secrecy under threat of death. All I'll say is that he's one of those posters in the match thread who are constant "glass half empty" merchants. He was *this close* to getting banned. But the gaffer basically prevented it.I'm sure he has an account on here, mainly spends time in the match day thread looking for tactical tips.
Thanks Pep :)
Pep knows right from wrong, an honest man. Sadly a rarity in this shithole of a country.I would follow Pep Guardiola through the very gates of hell.
I am happy to admit that watching snippets of the press conference has left me feeling extremely emotional. That might sound ridiculous for a middle aged man to say about a bleeding press conference but after the shockingly unfair events of this week, coupled with the body language of Pep for the last few weeks I really felt the end of his time here was near.
Not so.
For a man who was born thousands of miles from here to come out so eloquently, so passionately, and with such righteous anger swinging at our enemies so professionally and successfully in full public glare was very special.
And it was needed. Today, now, more than ever before.
This man is one of us. This man has instilled a much-needed boost to my spirits today.
The hacks came to that press conference to bury their Caesar. And instead they had their arses handed to them. As did the old money clubs and hangers on that they so gleefully represent.
I’ve been upset this week, very upset, as all I could think about was my dad and how glad I am that he isn’t here to witness the attempted destruction of his club. It’s been properly horrible and distressing.
I needed today. We all needed today. I think the players needed today.
I just cannot put into words to admiration and, yes, I’ll say it, the love I have for this man.
We needed him today. We really really needed him and he didn’t go missing.
He marched out to the hordes awaiting his destruction and stuck out his chin and told them all what the score really was.
When we win this the emotions will have to be very special to beat the lift that today has given me.
He’s one of us in every sense of the word.
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Now that is interesting if the PL have to drop the charges. Obviously a big if, but certainly an outcome that I have not seen mentioned yet. Fingers crossed.From a mate (I am only a messenger!):
"Spoke with an MP mate who I won't say (there are some good ones BTW). The Dept of Culture, Media and Sport (think current sports minister is Lucy Fraser) are incandescent with the PL's antics and the push for the independent regulator is being accelerated. Furthermore there are lots of shit stick stories on the horizon about the PL, backhanders etc, going to come out in due course inc monopoly corruption in regards to tv revenues and access. Bottom line is they are supporters of City as a catalyst for change".
It's interesting from the point of view that independent regulation could come in before our hearing takes place. If that happens, our charges could well be reviewed and even dropped.
A further question. If City win this can they apply for costs for their legal fee's from the PL ? (which will be massive).I answered that to someone else a few hundred pages back. No we will not. It is not our owners style and there is no guarantee of success. Journos will say they were reporting in the news of the times and the entities will say they were made aware of allegations and it was appropriate for them to investigate. They will quietly revel in the PL and “19”’s defeat with a big cigar and a smug glow of satisfaction. In my opinion of course.
As to the PL lawyer cost presumably it is paid for out of the budget. PL is fairly wealthy you know…
I put him on ignore a few weeks back(the only time I've done it)He just wants to argue and wind people up on a constant basis. A typical keyboard warrior.I'm trying to establish what side of the fence you are on here,with some of the posts you have made this week on this thread.
Thing is you've probably blocked me anyway,so may not to choose to reply,which is generally your trait,unless trying to put somebody down,but I am deeply concerned for someone with as many forthright views that you portray,as to where the land does actually lie with you.
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I think it depends on how much Discovery is provided with our responses to the allegations. If all of it, then it may stop there. If limited, then I suspect it will continue until full Discovery is provided which could last over 6 months to complete. If our papers are truly irrefutable then all good lawyers will bring things to an end.
If this was a public hearing like Uefa then I could see it going all the way. As it is private then the value of it going ahead is severely limited. I cannot state what other agendas are at play here, but my gut tells me that things will get resolved following Discovery unless the PL provide evidence that was not available to UEFA that is capable of defeating our Defenses. That still seems unlikely.
Years ago I used to run a Sunday team, player manager, always needed someone to ring round collect subs, clean the kit and so on, that's all this prick is but every club needs1, leaving 93.20 sums him up .Time he fucked off....clueless...knows fuck all about fans nowadays.....self serving fucker
The WhatsApp group chat would hilarious:)Now that is interesting if the PL have to drop the charges. Obviously a big if, but certainly an outcome that I have not seen mentioned yet. Fingers crossed.
How about convict City and NHS will get an extra £350m a week?
There’s a redundant open topped bus in Anfield going cheap, admittedly it has quadruple winners stickers all over it but I’m sure they can be removed easily with a bit of spit, a job for Jamie CarragherWhat we need is a slogan on the side of a redundant red bus, with words like, "City are innocent", or "Premier League mafia", or something similar....
It will be a clause in the PL agreement that answers that one way or the other. Someone better versed than me in PL rules will look it up and tell you. I really Should try and do some work on my clients cases today… it’s only midday in LA so half a day of work left. Unless I take a POETS day.A further question. If City win this can they apply for costs for their legal fee's from the PL ? (which will be massive).
I might sleep a bit better tonight, this after Peps masterful destruction of the gutter press really helps.From a mate (I am only a messenger!):
"Spoke with an MP mate who I won't say (there are some good ones BTW). The Dept of Culture, Media and Sport (think current sports minister is Lucy Fraser) are incandescent with the PL's antics and the push for the independent regulator is being accelerated. Furthermore there are lots of shit stick stories on the horizon about the PL, backhanders etc, going to come out in due course inc monopoly corruption in regards to tv revenues and access. Bottom line is they are supporters of City as a catalyst for change".
It's interesting from the point of view that independent regulation could come in before our hearing takes place. If that happens, our charges could well be reviewed and even dropped.