Premier League Games 18/19 Feb '23

Jam Tomorrow said:
The bbc is full gush mode about the wonderful reds and ETH a genius but forgetting how much PiGMOL have loaded the dice.Not a single booking for them lot but two for Leicester. Red cards not given etc.
the offside looked extremely dubious, almost like they went for the most plausible which in fairness looked close but again seemed a rather quick decision. This rumoured operation level up or give the reds a leg up seems in full swing. I guess the clubs who hounded us are happy to once again play stooges to the Trafford gang. Cunts
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Think we should run with that on here.."operation level up"
I like it ...get it trending
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
We are nowhere near as good as our 2012 2014 2018 2019 and 2022 title winning teams… but we’re nowhere near as bad as we were in Pellegrini’s final two seasons, especially his final one.

We are pretty much at an average of our best and worst in the last ten years at the moment.

In six previous seasons under Pep we’ve finished on:
80
100
98
82
86
93… points

Under Pep we’ve had three cracking seasons where we won the league and three below par seasons (including one where we still won the league and got to our first ever CL final).

But it has to be said it’s very inconsistent!

This season we are on course for an 82 point season which wouldn’t even be our worst under Pep and is 16 points better off than our final season under Pellegrini where we got 66 points and only won 19 games.

The season Mancini got sacked we finished on 78 points
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I meant we're at a low in terms of struggling for form and results in a lot of games.
 
skillman said:
Is it just me or does the line get closer to the darker shade of pitch on the far side than it is on the near side? Like it’s diagonal to favour a certain outcome…

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If anything it deviates towards the leicester player.

Follow the green line from rashfords foot to the dotted line and the area to the line cut in the grass gets smaller.

If VAR are going off just one image and that is it then that is absolute bollocks.
 
Tommy_Catons_Perm said:
Agreed. It's marginal. At best it looks level, which at one time would have been onside or giving the benefit of the doubt to the attacker would be onside.

However, putting the misunderstood perspective debate to one side, the real problem for me is the line intersecting the defender's shoulder. It's position is not precise and is easily manipulated, along with the choice of frame (when the ball was "played") , to give any answer one likes, either onside or off side.
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Agreed with you both. Automated offsides need to be in asap
 
skillman said:
Is it just me or does the line get closer to the darker shade of pitch on the far side than it is on the near side? Like it’s diagonal to favour a certain outcome…

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The VAR line clearly bends towards the Leicester player, than runs straight once inline to play Rashford on the line than goes straight

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Tommy_Catons_Perm said:
Agreed. It's marginal. At best it looks level, which at one time would have been onside or giving the benefit of the doubt to the attacker would be onside.

However, putting the misunderstood perspective debate to one side, the real problem for me is the line intersecting the defender's shoulder. It's position is not precise and is easily manipulated, along with the choice of frame (when the ball was "played") , to give any answer one likes, either onside or off side.
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We have camera's that record at thousands of frames per second. You could have this system 100% fair and automated so easily...but they obviously don't want that because if they did it would have been done years ago.
 
skillman said:
Is it just me or does the line get closer to the darker shade of pitch on the far side than it is on the near side? Like it’s diagonal to favour a certain outcome…

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I've also just spotted that the vertical line on the defender seems to intersect his elbow. It's blurred and difficult to tell, which may be deliberate obfuscation. A goal cannot be scored with an elbow, so the line should be moved aft a few inches to intersect the defenders shoulder. My point is that one can draw numerous lines at various angles and intersections to "prove" offside or onside depending on the preferred answer.
 
skillman said:
Is it just me or does the line get closer to the darker shade of pitch on the far side than it is on the near side? Like it’s diagonal to favour a certain outcome…

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It's just you. You're literally seeing things. There's a science behind it, think it's called vanishing point. The further two objects are from an individual's perspective, the closer they will appear.
 
Offsides now need to be automated, similar technology has been around in tennis since the 70s, the goal line tech works well, let’s stop all this manual line drawing bollocks. That way you take the rough with the smooth, some you get some you don’t whereas at the moment it seems like it’s being manipulated. But that aside, what will Twattwells punishment be for missing that red card offence? Also will the offending player receive a retrospective ban? I guess the answer is obvious, no punishment for cheating bastard Twatwell, and no retro card.
 
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