Pollution in our rivers.

[Saddleworth2]

Whilst it is very far from a perfect model and the situation in Scotland is getting worse rather than better, there is still clear (and clean) blue water between the privately owned (England) water system and the state owned (Scotland), as this article demonstrates. Maybe Labour will renationalise if they get in (yeah right).

Scottish Water is publicly run and 67% of its rivers are in good health. England shows this isn’t a coincidence

Scottish Water says it needs £650m in new investment to end sewage discharge into rivers. The relatively modest estimate throws into question the vast sums that have been quoted by the English private sector. Dumping sewage into our rivers is causing a growing public scandal – and rightly so...

www.brexitspotlight.org

 

[remember arthur mann]

Yeah, yeah, but look at the improvements in the other Nationalised businesses, Energy is cheap and efficient, and the same with railways and the postal service. The buses too.
To think water rates were once in your general rates, also cheap.
The nice little move by the water companies, clearly informs you that disposal of waste is far more expensive than water supply, so how frugal you are with water doesn't make much difference to the overall cost.

 

[snorky]

My local river, the Wye, is a total disgrace.
The phosphate levels are terrible and the more chicken sheds they approve in Wales the worse it will get.
Raw sewage discharge is also commonplace.

NRW are fuckin useless.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

The rivers unfortuately are only the start, me and the mrs pick all sorts up off the beaches with our dogs. Sometimes you can see a line of plastics etc on the high water line, even the very fine stuff is getting more visible.
I often think what some greater archeological life form in millions of years will make of it. But then I'm wierd.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

I would make all shareholders of water companies personally responsible for the costs of sorting it out.
The companies would soon get their acts together.

 

[Blue Mist]

Sadly most people don't care. They keep buying things in plastic, like water ffs.
Most humans are more interested in Strictly Dancing or Coronation St than how polluted the rivers are. The big corporates know that.
It's extremely sad how uninterested in the fact that the planet is being slowly destroyed by greed most people are.

The norm on here is to attack 'the big companies', several posters already have. What you say is bang on. If we all started to think about our use of plastic or actually picked litter up and put it into bins it would have an enormous effect.
Micro plastic is in everything irrespective of what a water company does but we all still use it.

 

[Blue Mist]

More Brexit benefits

?

 

[Saddleworth2]

The norm on here is to attack 'the big companies', several posters already have. What you say is bang on. If we all started to think about our use of plastic or actually picked litter up and put it into bins it would have an enormous effect.
Micro plastic is in everything irrespective of what a water company does but we all still use it.

The micro plastic can be removed by thorough sewage treatment. The technology exists to take 99% of it out. The water companies should be attacked as it is they that are prioritising profit and greed over reinvestment in an out of date infrastructure.

 

[remember arthur mann]

The water companies should be attacked as it is they that are prioritising profit and greed over reinvestment in an out of date infrastructure.

This was only to be expected by any right minded person.

 

[Saddleworth2]

This was only to be expected by any right minded person.

Of course. But obviously what was promised was ‘cheaper prices and stronger environmental controls’ direct quote from Thatcher.

 

[KS55]

I would make all shareholders of water companies personally responsible for the costs of sorting it out.
The companies would soon get their acts together.

And where would the companies get their funding?

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Same place they get it now.
They’ll just have to pay CEO’s less and cut dividends until the shit is sorted.
And if they say they can’t I’d suggest they may be renationalised with no compensation.

 

[Saddleworth2]

And where would the companies get their funding?

The billions (yes billions) of profits they make.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Of course. But obviously what was promised was ‘cheaper prices and stronger environmental controls’ direct quote from Thatcher.

Hard faced liar, Boris in the same mould.

 

[normskih]

The state of the river Bollin last week at Poynton.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...nvestigation-launched-after-more-100-26331112

 

[mancityvstoke]

Thatcher...How I hated that woman.

Her legacy and selfish privatisation and Union hatred is and was disgusting.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

The state of the river Bollin last week at Poynton.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...nvestigation-launched-after-more-100-26331112

For over a year now people have been advised not to let kids or pets go in the Bollin at Bollington because of the presence of toxic chemicals.

 

[Saddleworth2]

This article is over a year old but puts some hard stats behind the number of untreated sewage discharges into rivers. The governments target is to reduce these by 40% by ...............
2040.

'Water companies discharged raw sewage into English rivers 372,533 times last year, (2021) a slight reduction on the previous year.'

Raw sewage discharged into English rivers 375,000 times by water firms

Data from 2021 released at same time as government plan to stop 40% of untreated sewage releases by 2040

www.theguardian.com

And another article which names every MP that voted down a bill to stop the practice. (clue they are all Tories)

Every UK MP who voted to ALLOW water companies to continue dumping RAW SEWAGE in rivers and the sea - Carvemag.com

List of shame

www.carvemag.com

 

[Saddleworth2]

Christ, do people actually swim in rivers ?

paradoxically yes. Increasingly since Covid. 'Wild swimming' has taken off in the UK.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

This article is over a year old but puts some hard stats behind the number of untreated sewage discharges into rivers. The governments target is to reduce these by 40% by ...............
2040.

'Water companies discharged raw sewage into English rivers 372,533 times last year, (2021) a slight reduction on the previous year.'

Raw sewage discharged into English rivers 375,000 times by water firms

Data from 2021 released at same time as government plan to stop 40% of untreated sewage releases by 2040

www.theguardian.com

And another article which names every MP that voted down a bill to stop the practice. (clue they are all Tories)

Every UK MP who voted to ALLOW water companies to continue dumping RAW SEWAGE in rivers and the sea - Carvemag.com

List of shame

www.carvemag.com

In December under pressure from the utility companies the environment agency extended the clean river deadline to 2064…

Target date for cleaning up waterways in England is moved back by 36 years

Environment Agency under fire for extending schedule for tackling pollution in rivers, lakes and coastal waters to 2063

www.theguardian.com