Clarkson. Finished?

A57 the snake said:
The guys an absolute prick,media perfection with everything with what’s going wrong with the country at the moment. If he wants to make a go of anything for the camera’s then make a go of engineering or manufacturing, we know the plight of farmers but what about family run business’s ?? Farming is just a cheap gain for his odd followers from the daily mail who he’s employed by. He’ll be living in France in two years at some vineyard laughing his town halls off for those who’ve subscribed to his self divine shite.
He’s everything what’s wrong with this country soon as he’s out of here the better.
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Gibberish and factually wrong.
Well done.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Yes I know but you said starved and gassed to death.

Killing by gas did not happen until the 1940s.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

Gassing Operations

The Nazis used poisonous gas to murder millions of people in gas vans or stationary gas chambers. The vast majority of those killed by gassing were Jews.
encyclopedia.ushmm.org encyclopedia.ushmm.org
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Haha semantics mate.
The fact was in the early 1930s construction of 2 major concentration camps was underway, the final solution had been worked out by the Nazis way before the 1940's, they knew exactly what they were gonna do. I don't think the UK Gov have any such plans.
You are free to support to support Lineker of course all you like but imo he's a fucking wealthy fruitloop and hypocrite who found himself (not surprisingly) on a plane to Qatar for the WC (like the rest of the fucking hypocrites). Employed/contracted by the same organisation that concealed Jimmy Saville's activities. (I also believe they were the main employer of Rolph Harris).
His reference to the Nazis was way out of proportion even if he didn't mention gas chambers. Almost the language of a holocaust denier.
The Nazis were an evil regime intent on wiping out large innocent sections of the population, and not just Jewsish. I don't live in the UK so I don't follow things like government language, I know the present Gov are abysmal...we have our own idiots here but I somehow think you cant equate the UK Gov and their plans for illegal immigrants to Hitlers Nazis and the plans to eliminate 6 million Jews, 1 million Romani Gypsies etc.
 
Bill Walker said:
Haha semantics mate.
The fact was in the early 1930s construction of 2 major concentration camps was underway, the final solution had been worked out by the Nazis way before the 1940's, they knew exactly what they were gonna do. I don't think the UK Gov have any such plans.
You are free to support to support Lineker of course all you like but imo he's a fucking wealthy fruitloop and hypocrite who found himself (not surprisingly) on a plane to Qatar for the WC (like the rest of the fucking hypocrites). Employed/contracted by the same organisation that concealed Jimmy Saville's activities. (I also believe they were the main employer of Rolph Harris).
His reference to the Nazis was way out of proportion even if he didn't mention gas chambers. Almost the language of a holocaust denier.
The Nazis were an evil regime intent on wiping out large innocent sections of the population, and not just Jewsish. I don't live in the UK so I don't follow things like government language, I know the present Gov are abysmal...we have our own idiots here but I somehow think you cant equate the UK Gov and their plans for illegal immigrants to Hitlers Nazis and the plans to eliminate 6 million Jews, 1 million Romani Gypsies etc.
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It's funny you mention semantics because what Lineker did was compare the language used to that of 1930s Germany. Not the policies, not the actions, the language. And he is correct. Hitler didn't start by telling people he wanted to kill jews, he started by building an agenda against them and blaming them for the country's issues.


The language used about "enough is enough" and then talking about how much the govt spends on the issue is building that same hatred. Lineker doesn't suggest for a moment we are going to kill them. But for such a sensitive issue, where the majority are risking their lives to get here, it's pretty distateful. They're spending £7m a day on hotels because of their own ineptitude at addressing the issue not because that's a true cost.

Anyway back to Clarkson. Like his farm show.
 
supercity88 said:
It's funny you mention semantics because what Lineker did was compare the language used to that of 1930s Germany. Not the policies, not the actions, the language. And he is correct. Hitler didn't start by telling people he wanted to kill jews, he started by building an agenda against them and blaming them for the country's issues.


The language used about "enough is enough" and then talking about how much the govt spends on the issue is building that same hatred. Lineker doesn't suggest for a moment we are going to kill them. But for such a sensitive issue, where the majority are risking their lives to get here, it's pretty distateful. They're spending £7m a day on hotels because of their own ineptitude at addressing the issue not because that's a true cost.

Anyway back to Clarkson. Like his farm show.
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Whatever the rights and wrongs are about immigrants....I personally would give them residency and jobs then they could pay for rent, power and food like the rest of us. I will call out the hypocrite Lineker for his "akin to the Nazis" comments. Totally out of order and context imo.
Of course you are free to support him and his comments as is your right.
 
Bill Walker said:
Whatever the rights and wrongs are about immigrants....I personally would give them residency and jobs then they could pay for rent, power and food like the rest of us. I will call out the hypocrite Lineker for his "akin to the Nazis" comments. Totally out of order and context imo.
Of course you are free to support him and his comments as is your right.
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I just don't believe he was drawing parallels to anything other than the language, so is correct. But he could and shoukd have probably referenced extreme politics in general for his own benefit. Enough is enough is a very strong statement which can motivate the right wing and lead to a rise in issues for legal migrants too, as well as general racism. I find it baffling how two second generation immigrants are spearheading this. But there you go!
 
Lineker can say what he wants, I'm not particularly arsed about his opinion.
He can afford to take his position, and I respect that, but many others see the situation differently.
We all contribute what we can to our chosen causes, if that's what we choose to do.
I've always been OK with immigration, never had a problem, and I've stayed in areas of Birmingham that I must admit I was slightly apprehensive of, but guess what, I've never once felt intimidated or excluded, even in predominantly so called no go areas.
Generally, that's a myth.
The secrecy, the hotels, the general skullduggery of the present situation does worry me.
We can't keep welcoming visitors and putting them up forever, can we?
If that's the plan, fine, but we need to build purpose built housing and find them jobs, and be transparent about it. Is that unreasonable?
Let's admit what's happening and deal with it, and most people wouldn't have a problem.
Hiding them behind hotels and pretending it isn't happening does nobody any favours.
 
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