The BBC | Tim Davie resigns as Director General over Trump documentary edit (p 187)

I don’t watch MOTD any more and haven’t for years. Not because of any perceived slights or change in quality, but just because as others have said the highlights are available online nearly immediately. This new ‘format’ would give me even less reason to watch. There’s literally zero compelling value add there at all.

What might get me watching again was if the punditry and post-match analysis was actually any good. I’ve said it many times on here but I love listening to most of the punditry in golf, cricket, and less so rugby because they’re usually knowledgeable so I actually tend to learn something.

On MOTD (and Sky and BT) I learn absolutely nothing. Why? Because the pundits are generally woeful and, at risk of sounding elitist, are often fucking thick as mince. They sometimes seem to know less than the average fan.

Would you watch MOTD if Pep was running you through a tactical analysis? Of course you would. While Pep would never do that, why can’t the BBC deliver something at least slightly more compelling than Shearer glibly remarking “he has to score there” every 5 minutes. The small bits of analysis they actually do are as deep as a puddle, it’s always “he had a great game, look at him passing and moving and getting in the right positions”.
 
So tomorrow night, no presenters, and no pundits, just more football.

Seems like win win to me, I rarely watch the biased shit these days, but I might watch tomorrow (though our result will be the biggest influence).

As the thread title says "ignoring the lineker stuff", so please take any political bollocks to a different thread.
I usually watch foreign streams for that reason. No presenters, just the action.
 
They are on a roll




The same day they've said Fiona Bruce wasn't downplaying domestic violence by reassuring everyone watching QT that Stanley Johnson only broke his wife's nose once because it's BBC policy to address any claims of wrongdoing by the presenter immediately giving clear context to the story.
 
It's an interesting point that when opinion polls asking what peoples main concerns are, and immigration falls to around 10% being the main concern of the respondents, the government and the right wing press start ramping up the rhetoric.

It's ridiculous that a decent man by all accounts who talks about football and expressed his own opinion on a platform that has nothing to do with the BBC has attracted such fear and loathing, but it takes the heat off the government receiving well deserved criticism about how they have trashed just about everything in the country during their tenure. We now have backbench MP's clamouring for us to forget about our human rights, bills are passing through Parliament that will ban protests, and in a way, it shouldn't be a surprise that a popular presenter like Lineker should be silenced for criticising the government.

Fascists like a free reign on everything without any blame and don't like dissent.
 
It's an interesting point that when opinion polls asking what peoples main concerns are, and immigration falls to around 10% being the main concern of the respondents, the government and the right wing press start ramping up the rhetoric.

It's ridiculous that a decent man by all accounts who talks about football and expressed his own opinion on a platform that has nothing to do with the BBC has attracted such fear and loathing, but it takes the heat off the government receiving well deserved criticism about how they have trashed just about everything in the country during their tenure. We now have backbench MP's clamouring for us to forget about our human rights, bills are passing through Parliament that will ban protests, and in a way, it shouldn't be a surprise that a popular presenter like Lineker should be silenced for criticising the government.

Fascists like a free reign on everything without any blame and don't like dissent.
The Tories have trashed this country for years to come and everyone knows it.
The only vote winner they have left is to pander to the anti immigration fears of the hard of thinking, which is what the whole anti asylum seeking boat people witch hunt is about.
They couldn't allow Lineker to stick his oar into that, could they?
 
Impartiality though surely doesn’t mean ‘cannot attack the government’?
Lord Sugar is paid by the BBC and is the face of The Apprentice and yet he said this, in an election year, as well….


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I must admit I didn't know about Alan sugar and I agree all BBC people should be impartial.
Maybe it was the Nazi reference they took umbrage at.
 
I must admit I didn't know about Alan sugar and I agree all BBC people should be impartial.
Maybe it was the Nazi reference they took umbrage at.
They should be impartial when they are actually doing a job of work for the BBC or if they are involved in political commentary or reporting, otherwise what they say or do in their own time off air is their business.
Just because they work for the BBC shouldn't deprive them of an opinion.
 
So tomorrow night, no presenters, and no pundits, just more football.

Seems like win win to me, I rarely watch the biased shit these days, but I might watch tomorrow (though our result will be the biggest influence).

As the thread title says "ignoring the lineker stuff", so please take any political bollocks to a different thread.
Football with no pundits and commentators and just fan noise would be an absolute blessing. It disgusts me the bias from likes of Carragher, Mcmanamouth, Murphy, Neville, Flitcroft, Owen and on and on
 

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