The BBC | Tim Davie resigns as Director General over Trump documentary edit (p 187)

As has, I'm sure, already been pointed out, Sugar isn't contracted to the BBC, Lineker (note the spelling) is.
Regardless...he used his platform on the BBC to express political views, Lineker didnt.....What about the head of the bbc (or one of them cant remember which one) being a writer for a right wing magazine - think its called "the Competitor" or something like that.... is this ok? Howis that different from what Lineker has done? He is clearly contracted to the BBC

The difference is one is anti government, one is pro.....equal platform for all is how it should be...(note that Im not saying ban any side of the argument)
 
The comparison was a poor one imo. Regardless of his or your or anyones dislike of this government, their language isn't the same as the hate and bile spewed by the nazi government. Comparing the too surely leads to belittling the evil that occurred in 1930s Germany. I do have an issue with that.

Its all too easy to throw insults and make comparisons like this these days and i think those that do don't fully understand what occurred back then. It trivialises an awful nadir in European history.

I think you could well be inadvertently belittling it yourslef, with that reach. And he compared it to 1930s not to 40s, so you (and others that have rushed to that) are the ones linking the two, not him.

It IS the same language, that's the point. And has been for a while. Pointing that out is not necessarily suggesting that what came to pass in Germany a decade after such language was used is in any way likely to happen here, nor is it trivialising what such language ultimately led to. I welcome anyone pointing that out, be it a guy at the pub, someone at the bbc, or footballing pundit i don't normally have time or love for.

Whatever the interpretation (semantic philosophical, political or whatever) of his comment though, the issue here isn't whether you or I agree or disagree with him. It is whether the BBC under pressure from the governemt have the right to stop him making it or not.

I dare guess btw that neither of us two would have even known he made it had it not been turned into fuss news by the bbc.
 
But he didn’t make the comments on any BBC social media site or on the TV. How does that break the agreement? Is he not allowed to express a viewpoint on anything outside of his job?
According to the current BBC director general it supposedly does whilst he's earning a wage paid for by the taxpayer. Personally I feel it's a storm in a teacup; the BBC have, IMO, acted way too heavy-handed, could have simply reminded Gary that such comments bring the BBC up for criticism that they now have to bat away, not him himself, and they could do without the additional 'outrage' given there are many people with a certain opinion of the BBC calling for the licence fee to be scrapped.

I'm of the view that all opinions, whether welcomed or despised, should be heard and not faced with disciplinary action (threats of violence towards others etc being the exception). That doesn't mean I believe certain opinion shouldn't then be open to criticism from others, either. Gary hasn't said anything wrong, but i'm not a fan of the allegory he used to make it either.
 
The White Australia Policy goes back to 1901. It was Australia who quashed the following proposal that the Japanese wanted inserted in the Treaty of Versailles in 1919....

"The equality of nations being a basic principle of the League of Nations, the High Contracting Parties agree to accord as soon as possible to all alien nationals of states, members of the League, equal and just treatment in every respect making no distinction, either in law or in fact, on account of their race or nationality."
yeah I know it is older and was still being pushed by some till the 50s-70s but in the context of that decade of topic it was very much still a popular policy and languague was being used similar to sunaks in oz
 
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Just showing the highlights suits me.

Presenters on the BBC in general are over paid and it's daft that in 2023 we are forced to pay a fee for the pleasure. Have your opinion, fine. Just don't force us to contribute to your whopping pay packet.

Before you start your argument, read through the media thread and see the countless times BBC sport have been selective in their reporting on City on top of false reporting on our ownership.
 
Not sure you did, but you can take that to the one in the political forum, this is a thread in a football forum.
to gloss over what Lineker said about human rights etc?.....the thread shouldnt exist...football aint that important to start saying things like "well at least we can watch more football/less punditary etc".....some things are funny..the majority of what is posted on this forum is funny, humerous, entertaining and educational but a thread like this that even slightly minimises what is going on in the world in my opinion doesnt have a place......

I get you dont like many of my opinions on football....Im fine with that as Im sure you are but this is different and not about that
 
The BBC have turned this into an us v him and taken the entire spotlight off what the whole thing was about the immigrant/refugees crisis and the government curtailing the numbers coming into the uk,what a horrible organisation they are the bbc,about time an independent body came in to do a massive cull on the numbers their and scraping the license fee.oh and they already advertise across their many platforms anyhow..
 
to gloss over what Lineker said about human rights etc?
Did you read the thread title either ? "ignoring the lineker stuff" for instance, if you want to moralise/politicise the MoTD stuff there's a thread right HERE for you.

I've no idea what's in it, as I have no interest in it. I started this as a light hearted thread about MoTD NOT lineker.
 
The program is shite so I don’t watch it.

Hardly an overreaction is it?

Let me guess, me saying so on here has offended you?

Tough titties I’m afraid.

Enjoy your day.
It's not offended me in the slightest, I just don't get how wound up you can get over a programme, I would also say enjoy your day but I have an image of you as Victor Meldrew walking about muttering under your breath how shit this and that is ;)
 

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