The BBC | Tim Davie resigns as Director General over Trump documentary edit (p 187)

skillman said:
I know the producers of MOTD were stuck between a rock and a hard place but you’d think they’d have tried something innovative to try and save face.

Ears, Shearer and Wright will have been watching that last night thinking ‘they need us!’
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That's the problem! They think they are needed; we know they are not! I will turn up to the Leipzig game on Tuesday and not fret one jot at kick off when I can't hear some arse rabbiting on about the guy who MANUre were gonna buy and who had a trial at Wigan, and who's Dad was a lifelong Arsenal fan!
 
cheekybids said:
My old fella has never used YouTube in his life & watches TV & told me he enjoyed it.

Before you jump to conclusions he didn’t vote for brexit, he’s pro immigration but was born in 1940 & can tell the difference between a snide Tory **** & the most murderous evil rhetoric of the 20th century.
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It started in Germany with dehumanising language, which was Lineker’s actual point, but even if you don’t agree with Lineker’s point surely he had a right to make it and doesn’t deserve suspending for it?
 
crooky said:
Just seen it. Very funny and feels like they threw their toys out the pram with the presentation of it.

What was the reason for:

- Not playing the theme song?
- Not showing team lineups and formations?
- Not having commentary in the games? (I'm sure they could've used some of the official Premier League commentary used on the international feed if they'd asked nicely)
- Not showing stats such as shots on target, possession, corners etc at the end?
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Judging from the BBC football website, since the fellow presenters pulled out in support, I’d say a similar refusal (or other reason) to work has occurred.

The live feed had no names at the top of it,(usually 2-3) and the amount of text output seemed less.
There have been no,AFAIK, ‘Have your say’s on any match this weekend.
Many other pieces seem to be lacking a writers name.

I’d say there’s been a lot of backroom support of Lineker’s stance and then the management response, and it’s being manifested with a lack of detail/trimmings with the football output - there seemed to be an awful lot of detail on the England rugby splatting in comparison.
 
whipper said:
Get a couple of posters from the match day thread doing the commentary.
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Great idea...

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urban genie said:
where did he minimilise it?

where is mentioning the language used in the 1930 by the nazi party about not only jews but gypsies, communists, capitalist, intellectuals, the disabled, poles, czechs, slovacs and any non arian anti semetic?

The actual languafe used in propaganda writren in the years 1933-1937 it is quite similar to what the tories are spouting now.

If he had accused Sunak and Braveman of wanting to mass murder amd exterminate immigrants and asylum seekers then yes he would have crossed a line, but he never did and never compared this to the final sollution or the horrors that came after the rhetoric of the early 30s.
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The analogy Lineker drew is sound, for the reasons you to which you point. Anyone who makes a leap from that to concentration camps is simply looking for reasons to dislike what he has said. It’s irrational and therefore best ignored.
 
crooky said:
If you have a VPN or live in the US all the highlights of the games are available for free on NBC Sports.

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Longer highlights than most matches on MOTD and they seem to use the international commentary feed so British commentators.

And of course you can pick and choose what games to watch.
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"City escape with victory" and "reactions as City barely beat Crystal Palace" were the first two things I saw. Is it the same old anti City rhetoric every week on there too ?
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
The press hounded Sterling because he left their darlings Liverpool and came to City.

Calling it racism is lazy and lets the press off with what the real issue is: Manchester City are hated!
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They love the rags even more but reserve the same treatment for Rashford. TAA has been hounded by the same faces that hounded Sterling and Rashford.

Yes, we know City are hated. By certain sections of society, so are black people.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
That's the problem! They think they are needed; we know they are not! I will turn up to the Leipzig game on Tuesday and not fret one jot at kick off when I can't hear some arse rabbiting on about the guy who MANUre were gonna buy and who had a trial at Wigan, and who's Dad was a lifelong Arsenal fan!
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Exactly. But last nights (shit)show didn’t prove they’re not particularly needed. Or at least didn’t prove a revamp is needed.

What they showed last night you can get on Sky’s YouTube channel. That last night wasn’t worth paying a TV licence for.
 
colin's bell helmet said:
Lovely stuff... Just football and crowd noise, get the overpaid wankers fucked off I'm all for it! Need to stop paying my fuckin licence fee when they're paying that big eared twat millions each year for an hours work every weekend for saying "here's a game of football" "so Alan what do you think about that game".... Has anyone fucked off the licence fee? Do you get in shit doing it or should I have fucked it off years ago?
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urban genie said:
where did he minimilise it?

where is mentioning the language used in the 1930 by the nazi party about not only jews but gypsies, communists, capitalist, intellectuals, the disabled, poles, czechs, slovacs and any non arian anti semetic?

The actual language used in propaganda writren in the years 1933-1937 it is quite similar to what the tories are spouting now.

If he had accused Sunak and Braveman of wanting to mass murder amd exterminate immigrants and asylum seekers then yes he would have crossed a line, but he never did and never compared this to the final sollution or the horrors that came after the rhetoric of the early 30s.
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He minimised it by comparing the description of some limited measures to stop illegal migration into a country with one of the worst crimes in human history. The two aren’t comparable and to imply they are equivalent is to minimise one and exaggerate the other.

Yes, he said the language in the 1930s, not the actual holocaust, but the implication was clear. After all, the nazis aren’t regarded as one of the most evil regimes in history because of their language in the early part of their reign. It was clear the line of argument he was making was to equate the current actions of the government with those of Nazi germany. That is an absolutely risible comparison that is offensive and beyond contempt.
 
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