It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

[richards30]

But then there’s Barca, where a few of ours want to go, who haven’t got a pot to piss in.

They have to trade then? Barca are hilarious that they want to sign all these players yet have to raise £178m asap?!

 

[Rammy Blue]

If we did decide to sell him we would at least get our money back 100%. There would be plenty of suitors too.

Yeah, I agree. He’s an easy signing for an average side at circa £35/40mil.

 

[Rammy Blue]

They have to trade then? Barca are hilarious that they want to sign all these players yet have to raise £178m asap?!

Can only hope that FDJ is a possibility.

 

[richards30]

Can only hope that FDJ is a possibility.

I`d love Frenkie here over Mac Allister and any other midfielder mate! If its allowed then trade Frenkie for Bernardo and maybe 20m euros to Barca and be done with it.

 

[Tb1981]

Looks like a huge summer
I’d be looking to move Phillips on
If we are looking at a couple of midfielders like Bellingham and mcallister then it’s clear he ain’t getting back in
Let Bernardo, cancelo and Laporte leave
Let gundo do what he wants
Get gvardiol in
Harwood bellis new contract and back on loan to Burnley
Mcatee and Doyle hopefully on loan to a premier league club if sheff Utd go up (maybe Burnley) or sell with buy backs
Would love Doyle to make it with us one day (very unlikely)
Let’s spend £300m and piss everyone off
We should be getting £200m back minimum in sales

 

[wolviedinho]

West Ham asked for him on loan in Jan but, unless they stay up or keep Moyes, that option will be lost.

I think Pep was shocked at how lack of switched on he was in our Cup defeat to Southampton?

We don't know how badly the injuries have set him back, both mentally and physically.

I refuse to believe, however, that an England international, is not good enough to be utilised as a squad back-up in any case.

I'm a sucker for decent people and Phillips looks of good stock. If he asked to leave and Pep/City were open to it, than that's a different matter.

Perhaps Leeds or Newcastle would be more attractive than West Ham right now.

Sometimes moves just don’t work out. Philips seems a decent sort and has had rotten luck with injuries which must have a negative impact. With Bellingham hopefully coming in his midfield opportunities will further diminish.

If he asks to leave I would let him otherwise give him until next season to see if he can find his way back into the team.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

Gavi for Silva swap
Phillips & Cash for Bruno G.

The rumour mill is in full effect, who makes up this stuff

 

[supercity88]

Sometimes moves just don’t work out. Philips seems a decent sort and has had rotten luck with injuries which must have a negative impact. With Bellingham hopefully coming in his midfield opportunities will further diminish.

If he asks to leave I would let him otherwise give him until next season to see if he can find his way back into the team.

It's probably the hardest position to play for us and through injuries he's missed the opportunity to try and learn the role early in the season. We're now at the point where every game is vital and we can't afford passengers and unfortunately he is very much a passenger. It would be okay if he was busting a gut to get a tackle in or defend a situation but he just seems lethargic and lazy on the pitch, which compared with his lack of awareness in the role makes for a disastrous combination. His only contribution against Leipzig was to give the ball away leading to Akanji making a late tackle and getting booked. Bookings can be costly in the CL and it was completely unnecessary.

Bernardo had to motion him to move forwards a couple of times. He seems to think just sitting in the defensive position is all we need from him. He clearly hasn't been watching Rodri to see how he is always moving to be in a position to receive the ball. It might be that he can turn things around, he's an international who made a name for his physical intensity and distribution. But it doesn't look like he backs himself to succeed here. I don't think we'll lose much money on him if he does go, but hopefully he can do a job for us when needed. If it's late on in a CL knockout and we need someone to see the game out, I don't have the confidence in him to do that job sadly, when I thought he could be the perfect man in those situations.

 

[Gumzy97]

Gavi for Silva swap
Phillips & Cash for Bruno G.

The rumour mill is in full effect, who makes up this stuff

I'd love Gavi, he's technically brilliant a work horse as well, but he's an absolute dickhead on the pitch. He's wound up that madrid team so much that today there's info coming out that the Madrid players want the Barcelona staff to have a word with him about is attitude.

Real Madrid players have sent messages to Barça heavyweights asking them to speak to Gavi about his behaviour. [Más que Pelotas]

 

[domalino]

Sometimes moves just don’t work out. Philips seems a decent sort and has had rotten luck with injuries which must have a negative impact. With Bellingham hopefully coming in his midfield opportunities will further diminish.

If he asks to leave I would let him otherwise give him until next season to see if he can find his way back into the team.

The big problem is he's already 27. If he's like Aké and really comes good in his third season, he'll be pushing 30 before we get a return.

 

[supercity88]

As is the point he wasn't really playing for Leeds in the run up to his departure.

It's not 12 months on the sidelines, it's quite a bit longer, owing to his poor injury record in second part of his last season with Leeds.

If Kalvin was showing any uptick in training, Pep would not be keeping him on the bench for Cup games.

Rodri is being flogged, AGAIN!

And Rodri is now a nailed on starter for Spain too. Busquets generally played ahead of him under Luis Enrique (until he then became a CB for the WC). Looking at their current squad I can't see how Rodri doesn't start both games which is a shame, he could do with a rest more than anyone. Positively he played just over 60 mins against Leipzig and Burnley so managed to have an hour off the pitch across the two games. If we can keep winning well and only giving him 60 minutes it will help.

 

[Manc123]

And Rodri is now a nailed on starter for Spain too. Busquets generally played ahead of him under Luis Enrique (until he then became a CB for the WC). Looking at their current squad I can't see how Rodri doesn't start both games which is a shame, he could do with a rest more than anyone. Positively he played just over 60 mins against Leipzig and Burnley so managed to have an hour off the pitch across the two games. If we can keep winning well and only giving him 60 minutes it will help.

Agree with you here..... I think in terms of Phillips and minutes we've not been able to risk taking rodri off on games because we've not been winning comfortable a lot of games were going to the last minute. So if we can start winning a little more comfortably I'd assume Phillips probably gets onto the pitch

 

[waspish]

Every time Phillips plays he drops an unnecessary clanger that nearly costs us a goal, one of those ones that no one including Pep obviously are going to ignore, just plain lazy slackness.

Yeah maybe but it might just be down to he has hardly played any games

 

[OB1]

West Ham asked for him on loan in Jan but, unless they stay up or keep Moyes, that option will be lost.

I think Pep was shocked at how lack of switched on he was in our Cup defeat to Southampton?

We don't know how badly the injuries have set him back, both mentally and physically.

I refuse to believe, however, that an England international, is not good enough to be utilised as a squad back-up in any case.

I'm a sucker for decent people and Phillips looks of good stock. If he asked to leave and Pep/City were open to it, than that's a different matter.

Perhaps Leeds or Newcastle would be more attractive than West Ham right now.

I rated Phillips before he arrived and a Leeds S/T I know well told me he needs game time to get back to his best after injury so the very long time out he has had is likely to have had a major impact. He is also trying to learn the City way. And then Rodri is just so damn good.

He could yet be one of those players that really starts to bloom in his second season under Pep.

Of course, if we can move him on for decent money and get an immediate upgrade to replace him, that would be business worth doing but we should not give up on him.

 

[Gaz (FMwkdsoul)]

I'd love Gavi, he's technically brilliant a work horse as well, but he's an absolute dickhead on the pitch. He's wound up that madrid team so much that today there's info coming out that the Madrid players want the Barcelona staff to have a word with him about is attitude.

Real Madrid players have sent messages to Barça heavyweights asking them to speak to Gavi about his behaviour. [Más que Pelotas]

Good.

 

[OB1]

Can only hope that FDJ is a possibility.

We just don't seem interested in him.

I do get the feeling that if you turn us down, you don't get a second invitation.

I wonder if that is a deliberate policy so that when City go in for a player, the player knows that it is now or never.

 

[Blue Smarties]

West Ham asked for him on loan in Jan but, unless they stay up or keep Moyes, that option will be lost.

I think Pep was shocked at how lack of switched on he was in our Cup defeat to Southampton?

We don't know how badly the injuries have set him back, both mentally and physically.

I refuse to believe, however, that an England international, is not good enough to be utilised as a squad back-up in any case.

I'm a sucker for decent people and Phillips looks of good stock. If he asked to leave and Pep/City were open to it, than that's a different matter.

Perhaps Leeds or Newcastle would be more attractive than West Ham right now.

Everton wanted him at the end of January. Not sure if the new manager changes that?

 

[John Wayne]

We just don't seem interested in him.

I do get the feeling that if you turn us down, you don't get a second invitation.

I wonder if that is a deliberate policy so that when City go in for a player, the player knows that it is now or never.

Fair point, I think the last player we went back for was Laporte and that's more than five years ago.

 

[Legal Alien]

As is the point he wasn't really playing for Leeds in the run up to his departure.

It's not 12 months on the sidelines, it's quite a bit longer, owing to his poor injury record in second part of his last season with Leeds.

If Kalvin was showing any uptick in training, Pep would not be keeping him on the bench for Cup games.

Rodri is being flogged, AGAIN!

Which, to me, makes it even more annoying that we got rid of Lavia.

Watching Lavia this season, he could've stepped in to give Rodri a rest.

 

[domalino]

Which, to me, makes it even more annoying that we got rid of Lavia.

Watching Lavia this season, he could've stepped in to give Rodri a rest.

I like Lavia but some Southampton supporting friends of mine say he's getting the treatment a lot of players at struggling clubs get where anything he does good makes it to MOTD or twitter and anything he does bad gets overlooked because he's an 18 year old in the worst side in the league. When his mistakes cost them a goal people just blame the team or the manager.

It's a very, very different propositon to playing back up to Rodri.

The problem is that we might have to buy him back this summer because he's too good for the Championship and other PL clubs are lurking.

I think the best case for us is Southampton stay up and he stays there for at least 1 more season.