Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager

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Coatigan said:
I don't get why people are so keen to make Potter out as an excellent manager simply at the wrong club at the wrong time.

He was fucking terrible. Borderline clueless. His reputation is and should well be in tatters. To walk into a side that under the previous manager won the champions league and was in multiple cup finals, had 600m+ of new players, and to drop them into the bottom half of the table is deserving of the sack. And ridicule. Their worst ever manager apparently.

Yes he exceeded expectations at Brighton, and yes he is a 'cool' young-ish mod-looking Englishman that some had a romantic notion could one day manage us. But Brighton have done just as well if not better since he left, because they have a good recruitment set-up and are capable of finding the right players. It now looks like he was at the right place at the right time there.

Ultimately he was found out, way out of his depth and not good enough for the top level. It was a stupid move, one he wasn't ready for, but he was nowhere near good enough to go for it.
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Once he got his haircut and Andre dress code there was only one way it was going to end..
 
Boo or Boo-urns said:
Potterball:

(-) 28% win rate in 3 years @ Brighton
(-) Never finishing a season with a (+)ve goal difference.
(-) Never beating a PL opposition in any cup competition.
(-) At his age, statistically worse than Big Sam, Pulis & Uncle Woy by every metric.
(+) Talks about growing a nice beard and having a footballer's trimz to keep the UK Journo's smiling.
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Yep but played good football [emoji6]
 
Coatigan said:
To walk into a side that under the previous manager won the champions league and was in multiple cup finals, had 600m+ of new players
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Which one is it? He walked into a side that won the CL or he walked into a side with 600m in new players?

They can't both be true.

Chelsea lost Rudiger, Alonso, Christensen, Giroud, Werner, Emerson before he got there and Kante was only fit for 33 minutes of his tenure.
 
Coatigan said:
What's laughable is his record.

He is a 'good' manager, for clubs like Swansea, and where Brighton were when he was there, with low expectations. He is not good enough for top level clubs. He didn't live up to the hype.

He has time on his side and will find a good club for his level, doubt any top club would now dare go near him though.
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I find it bizarre that people could watch Potter's Brighton beat us last season playing some of the best football of any side we've played against under Pep and conclude the manager is shit.
 
domalino said:
I find it bizarre that people could watch Potter's Brighton beat us last season playing some of the best football of any side we've played against under Pep and conclude the manager is shit.
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So he is the Adama Traore of management, great.
 
Like many, I felt it was obvious that this was never going to work. No doubt there will be a few smirks on the faces of Brighton fans this morning.
The step up from Brighton to Chelsea is a considerable one. Was Potter being ambitious ?or was he simply deluded thinking he could succeed there? That club do have history in sacking managers who have been significantly better than Potter don't they!
Relating it to City (it may have been mentioned akready) I know the guy is woven into our fabric and seems to have his 'head screwed on' but this does make me hope that our ex captain isn't considered for the job here for a little while!
Obviously totally different circumstances, and potentially a far better manager imo, and we would all love him to succeed here eventually but I would hate to see Kompany take on such a challenge when not yet ready. (as Potter clearly wasnt)
 
Glad he’s gone there a shambles of a club anyhow ..........onto the next messiah like the Spursy which will no doubt end in tears yet again ........... do these club not believe in building and giving managers time ...........Potter will be back in the PL soon and will do well again
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
It's about being smart enough to read how the land lays.

He turned down a new deal with the best team in the country, with the best manager, playing plenty.

What his ego would not accept, was not playing in some of the biggest games.

When Pep played him in the biggest game in our history to date.

To move to Chelsea? A basket-case, regardless of geography.

He is miles away from being an automatic starter in that bloated squad.

I'm sure he regrets it.
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Maybe he holds out some hope that Chelsea can make the Europa Conference!
 
Bantamgaz said:
Glad he’s gone there a shambles of a club anyhow ..........onto the next messiah like the Spursy which will no doubt end in tears yet again ........... do these club not believe in building and giving managers time ...........Potter will be back in the PL soon and will do well again
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City supporters know from the Swales era…. Swapping managers gets you nowhere… Potters may have been fine if they’d given him time but, he was never getting that. He’s Been linked with Leicester, but looking at him he needs some time out.
 
The front man Bohely is a disaster. A complete fuckwit who thought he could come here and show those ignorant Brits how to do it. Well and truly fucked.
 
nmc said:
Maybe he holds out some hope that Chelsea can make the Europa Conference!
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They're 5 points off the Europa league, it would be 2 if they'd won yesterday.

Fulham are going to lose their manager and top scorer for the rest of the season. Brentford are going to lose Toney, Liverpool are a mess, Spurs ditto.

Decent new manager bounce and it's not impossible, especially given they've got old fashioned 6 pointers vs Brighton, Brentford, Newcastle and United.
 
Keeper! said:
Not sure they had much choice, Saturday they were dreadful and that after he looked like he had turned thing around in previous games.

The way Chelsea have gone about thing since Roman was moved on is plain wrong, the money , no plan, just the splatter gun thrown cash at it plan.

I can see this all ending in tears and a serious investigation in to where and who this money is coming from.
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If they don’t win a single pot for ten years under Boehly, would he cut his losses and sell at a significant loss, or would he just keep digging and digging?

Highly hypothetical of course, just imagining the best case scenario…
 
An absolutely crazy kneejerk reaction. The Chavs have changed owners, changed manager, changed coaching staff & changed the squad.

How the hell was Potter supposed to mould the most expensive collection of individuals into a functioning team within 6 months?

Leicester will be a good fit for Potter to rebuild his career & confidence, as the club needs a similar level of rebuilding.
 
Coatigan said:
His doing well at Swansea (another club where expectations are easy to exceed) as an arguement he could maybe manage a top club, is a perfectly debatable hypothetical Before he goes to a top club.

Having gone to one, and failed spectacularly, it is pretty clear he wasn't good enough.
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If that club wasn’t Chelsea in the state it was in, you’d be right. But it wasn’t a normal situation of walking into a top club with a balanced 24 man squad and a sane-ish person at the top

He walked into the most chaotic version of Chelsea Football Club that has ever existed. Run by a lunatic Yank who makes the Glazers look like, well, our very own Sheikh.

Nobody could manage a squad that size and with that many new faces all squabbling with each other. Tuchel was already struggling to handle Boehly FC before that influx happened.

If-and-when Potter gets to manage a sane top club, we’ll test your hypothesis. But that hypothesis simply hasn’t been tested yet, because of numerous extra variables working against him.
 
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