Oleksandr Zinchenko

Good lad, good character, absolutely the sort of player who could take a team struggling for 4th place and help get them to second, not quite good enough at the sharp end of elite footballers. Has a tendency to let emotion get the better of him, and for all his skills he can get found out defensively in the biggest games and biggest moments. For all the praise he rightly gets for getting us out of the shit against Villa he was also one of the reasons why were in the shit against West Ham a couple of games earlier. He would have been in the first eleven and an all time cult favourite at any point in our history before 2017 or so, and is welcome back as a guest of the club at any point in the future.
 
loved zincys attitude, half decent player and never really let us down, he was hyped to fuck with the media,the story of him and gabby taking the title after been "cast aside" was building , that will show pep.

zinc and gabby will always have a place in my blue heart, but we haven't missed them , with ake and akanji we are more solid,its allowed rico a chance which imo has taken with both hands, although i think we should of kept gabby instead of splashing out 50m for a tap in merchant
 
RadcliffeRick said:
Doesn't take us long to slag off ex-players does it? Strange behavior!!
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Same blokes who probably slag their ex off because they knew far better than to stick around.

All our ex players especially the last few years played a massive part in our success. Taking Zin for example, we don't win that title last year without him against Villa. He drove us through the last 35 minutes of that game. All whilst dealing with his family and friends getting fucking bombs dropped on them

But no, he's a shit talentless ****.
 
For clarity loved him when here, never wanted him to leave, but his recent OTT histrionics and moany attitude on the pitch led to my hope he ends up upset (ie crying) at the end of the season.

Clubs do really change players to their mindset

rags players become arrogant and gobby

red scouse players become cultish and fully enamoured with all things scouse

Arsenel players become entitled and moany

It ain't jus zinc I hope cries it is all the tarquin playere
 
urban genie said:
For clarity loved him when here, never wanted him to leave, but his recent OTT histrionics and moany attitude on the pitch led to my hope he ends up upset (ie crying) at the end of the season.

Clubs do really change players to their mindset

rags players become arrogant and gobby

red scouse players become cultish and fully enamoured with all things scouse

Arsenel players become entitled and moany

It ain't jus zinc I hope cries it is all the tarquin playere
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He was never really emotional till the war started , give him a lot of leway for that situation , we might have grown weary of the war but he and his friends and relatives havent
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
Good lad, good character, absolutely the sort of player who could take a team struggling for 4th place and help get them to second, not quite good enough at the sharp end of elite footballers. Has a tendency to let emotion get the better of him, and for all his skills he can get found out defensively in the biggest games and biggest moments. For all the praise he rightly gets for getting us out of the shit against Villa he was also one of the reasons why were in the shit against West Ham a couple of games earlier. He would have been in the first eleven and an all time cult favourite at any point in our history before 2017 or so, and is welcome back as a guest of the club at any point in the future.
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The entire back four that day was horrible.

Cancelo, Fernandinho, Laporte and Zinchenko.

Bowen had Olek's all over the place, and Antonio was brutal up against Fern.

Agree with everything else you have written.
 
I like him and think he did a decent enough job for us. I do prefer Ake at LB though.

I wish him well at his new club (as long as they finish below us).
 
Wretched Vengeance said:
The entire back four that day was horrible.

Cancelo, Fernandinho, Laporte and Zinchenko.

Bowen had Olek's all over the place, and Antonio was brutal up against Fern.

Agree with everything else you have written.
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Just remind me… why were we even playing with that back four? Two unreliable defenders on the flanks, and an ageing (albeit legendary) player at centre-half, which is not even his natural position and never will be.
Was our injury situation that bad at that point? I seem to have wiped it out in the euphoria of lifting the PL title against Villa.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
Good lad, good character, absolutely the sort of player who could take a team struggling for 4th place and help get them to second, not quite good enough at the sharp end of elite footballers. Has a tendency to let emotion get the better of him, and for all his skills he can get found out defensively in the biggest games and biggest moments. For all the praise he rightly gets for getting us out of the shit against Villa he was also one of the reasons why were in the shit against West Ham a couple of games earlier. He would have been in the first eleven and an all time cult favourite at any point in our history before 2017 or so, and is welcome back as a guest of the club at any point in the future.
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Fine assessment. Praise where praise is due, reservations where reservations are due. That's just about it.
Thinking about his face on the pitch at the final whistle of the 4-1. I specifically looked over at him. Even from a distance, he looked wan, as if he was thinking “Fuck but what a team this is!” I felt a little bit sorry for him. He'd been bullied all game long, like all of them.
 
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Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Just remind me… why were we even playing with that back four? Two unreliable defenders on the flanks, and an ageing (albeit legendary) player at centre-half, which is not even his natural position and never will be.
Was our injury situation that bad at that point? I seem to have wiped it out in the euphoria of lifting the PL title against Villa.
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Had a look. We had Ake, Mbete and Egan-Riley on the bench. We had numerous injuries at the back at that point.

Drew 2-2

We had 31 shots with 8 on target.

West Ham had 6 and 2. Typical.

Not that it mattered in the end :)
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Just remind me… why were we even playing with that back four? Two unreliable defenders on the flanks, and an ageing (albeit legendary) player at centre-half, which is not even his natural position and never will be.
Was our injury situation that bad at that point? I seem to have wiped it out in the euphoria of lifting the PL title against Villa.
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Stones went off injured in the first Real game (with Ferna coming against Vinicius at right back), Walker went off in the second leg, Dias picked up loads of knocks and was out for the final few games, and Ake was returning from injury and not fully fit. To make matters worse Laporte was playing through an injury.

Edit: it remains, though, a bit of a Pep mystery why we didn't start the final day with Stones and Laporte at CB, Cancelo on the right and Zinny on the left. Possibly because he didn't like what he saw at West Ham? It just about worked out in the end! Would have been a proper "what the fuck was he thinking?" if the game had panned out differently!
 
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Brightwell Bros. said:
Stones went off injured in the first Real game (with Ferna coming against Vinicius at right back), Walker went off in the second leg, Dias picked up loads of knocks and was out for the final few games, and Ake was returning from injury and not fully fit. To make matters worse Laporte was playing through an injury.
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Yes, that's what I thought. I wonder whether last year wasn't actually our greatest title triumph, in the light of all that. We basically didn't have a proper defence, and we still got it over the line.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Yes, that's what I thought. I wonder whether last year wasn't actually our greatest title triumph, in the light of all that. We basically didn't have a proper defence, and we still got it over the line.
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It's up there for those reasons imo. Laporte will never get the credit he deserves for the courage and balls he showed, too. And as always the biggest "what if?" will be what might have been if Walker hadn't gone off in Madrid!
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
Stones went off injured in the first Real game (with Ferna coming against Vinicius at right back), Walker went off in the second leg, Dias picked up loads of knocks and was out for the final few games, and Ake was returning from injury and not fully fit. To make matters worse Laporte was playing through an injury.

Edit: it remains, though, a bit of a Pep mystery why we didn't start the final day with Stones and Laporte at CB, Cancelo on the right and Zinny on the left. Possibly because he didn't like what he saw at West Ham? It just about worked out in the end! Would have been a proper "what the fuck was he thinking?" if the game had panned out differently!
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I asked that question in the post-match thread.

However, if he had, we might not have had those glorious seven minutes.
 
kaz7 said:
He has never said anything like that, he left to play more, dont make shite up , he was a model pro here, nice kid , leave him be
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Did you miss or just choose to ignore the word fanbase in the first paragraph?
 
N1985 said:
Same blokes who probably slag their ex off because they knew far better than to stick around.

All our ex players especially the last few years played a massive part in our success. Taking Zin for example, we don't win that title last year without him against Villa. He drove us through the last 35 minutes of that game. All whilst dealing with his family and friends getting fucking bombs dropped on them

But no, he's a shit talentless ****.
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Zinchenko always played his heart out and gave everything he had for the cause.
He made some mistakes I suppose, but we are all guilty of that.
 
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