PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[skillman]

I would doubt they would or would want to, the PL is the water we swim in

I still maintain that this whole charade is nothing but an attempt to tarnish the Club and it's achievements

My suspicion is before it gets too nasty and dirty washing is being displayed all over the place, political pressure will be applied to make this all go away, the PL is worth a lot of money to the British Economy and not forgetting the links between governments

FWIW I agree but if we're not going to sue for defamation due to the 'shitting on your own doorstep model' then you'd assume we wouldn't air their dirty laundry.

I personally think we would - with subtle leaks here and there, just enough to scratch the surface - at which point it'd be agreed to end things. If we come out of this unscathed then there's no point then going for the jugular. We may as well just move on.

I say that now. If we come out without a guilty verdict then I'll be one of the first calling for them to take the piss with it!!

 

[wolviedinho]

We need to fight every single point. Why should we not? The rules need to be applied correctly and correspond to the correct year. We already seen the grass length nonsense.

I would expect nothing less no matter how petty or how it looks from the outside. Leave no stone uncovered and fight every argument robustly.

Expected it after Madrid. It’s all pathetic really. You can’t have a football fan who is a direct competitor overseeing this case. Call for independence is a necessity.

 

[wolviedinho]

It's very encouraging. We have clearly gone through the charges and see a legitimate reason to end this earlier.

Getting off on another “technical point” would boil a lot of piss. Take it take it take it -:)

 

[Superace]

It looks like it.

Surely there not doing that, they can't be that careless can they?

 

[lust overlord]

If we win a challenge against the legality of the charges this will inevitably be spun as us getting off on a technicality won’t it?

Of course.
If you can be bothered to read some of the bitter rubbish on twitter,or elsewhere, that narrative has already been set.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Surely there not doing that, they can't be that careless can they?

Never underestimate the capacity for 'experts' to be dumb as fuck.

 

[aguero93:20]

We should but we won't.

We will more likely invite them all to the Etihad for a big knees up and 5 star buffet, with Patrice Evra making a guest appearance!

That would be inhumane.

 

[wolviedinho]

Agree with you. If we have irrefutable evidence surely it doesn’t matter who it is.

That would be great but nothing is clear cut. Mcfc is a business and as a business we will have pushed the rules to breaking point. Nothing new but we also don’t want to be giving the league any info that can be deemed damaging.

 

[wolviedinho]

I always try to look at it with open non bias eyes. The club will always be investigated to some extent due to the growth but what I am still not seeing is the premier league case. You would imagine that if they had us banged to rights then they would have went for our throat and not needed a hearing.

What are they waiting for? Forget city and the irrefutable evidence for a min. Where is the damning evidence we are guilty? Bobby Manc/ Der Spiegal emails? Well let’s see the paper trail. Oh no it don’t exist.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

We can't appeal against the substance of any decisions but as I understand it we can appeal to the court if we believe the process itself was flawed. And bias would be part of that flawed process.

I do wonder if we're just flexing our muscles here without seriously expecting to win this argument. Like a manager who moans about not getting refereeing decisions to try to influence future ones.

I’ve posted this a few times. It can got to the civil courts. Look up the Kieran Fallon case for the explanation why

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

The law is about interpretation. It 100% matters who the arbiters are.

Can you imagine the noise if Curly Watts, Moonchester, or Beany the Horse were installed as the Judges?

This is how I feel about an Arsenal club member & season ticket holder holding our future in his hands. A guilty verdict immediately benefits his beloved Arsenal.

It's a clear conflict of interest, & if this process wasn't bent from the outset, this fella would have recused himself from the off, instead of City having to make an application for him to be removed.

I’m personally not convinced that the fact he is an arsenal fan prevents him from being fair and impartial. The club are tho. So fair dos

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

If the P/L withdraw their accusations, could CITY sue the P/L for defamation?

If it plays out they have or are legally forced to drop a high number of the charges the publicly laid this is very helpful as it puts in the mind of the tribunal the motives for bringing the case. It was to damage us and chucking the kitchen sink at us for no reason merely underlines this

 

[Grassland Blue]

I would doubt they would or would want to, the PL is the water we swim in

I still maintain that this whole charade is nothing but an attempt to tarnish the Club and it's achievements

My suspicion is before it gets too nasty and dirty washing is being displayed all over the place, political pressure will be applied to make this all go away, the PL is worth a lot of money to the British Economy and not forgetting the links between governments

Whilst it is an undeniable fact that we swim in the P/L water, I don't think it is right that we should be confined to swimming in that bit of water into which sewage is discharged......

 

[Dribble]

I’m personally not convinced that the fact he is an arsenal fan prevents him from being fair and impartial. The club are tho. So fair dos

If your life was on the line & there was a noose dangling in front of you, would you be comfortable with your accusers best mate being the judge?

Fuck that! I'd want an independent, professionally qualified expert with no affiliations to either side to adjudicate.

We have laws about impartiality & interests for very good reason mate...

 

[Bluefen]

Never underestimate the capacity for 'experts' to be dumb as fuck.

Ex - used to be
Spirt - a drip under pressure

 

[city saint]

i think this could be some sort of jiggery pokery going on the premier league sees us get off on a technicality so dont lose face and city dont give a fuck as we are in the clear win win for both

 

[Ducado]

i think this could be some sort of jiggery pokery going on the premier league sees us get off on a technicality and city dont give a fuck as were in the clear win win for both

I have no doubt but we all know this was nothing to do with rule breaking but an attempt to set the narrative to taint the club, and in a way they have succeeded

 

[SatOnTheWall]

I’m personally not convinced that the fact he is an arsenal fan prevents him from being fair and impartial. The club are tho. So fair dos

If he’s on the premier league‘s payroll, that might though.

As per the Times article:

“Murray Rosen KC, the head of the Premier League’s independent judicial panel, as the person who appoints the chair of the disciplinary commission — under the rules he can appoint himself.”

 

[chaddblue]

I have no doubt but we all know this was nothing to do with rule breaking but an attempt to set the narrative to taint the club, and in a way they have succeeded

Have a quick look on Twitter today. If the PL announced that we are completely exonerated and have done nothing wrong at all, 90% of the bellends out there would refuse to believe it. They've already succeeded in tainting the club

 

[halfcenturyup]

Never underestimate the capacity for 'experts' to be dumb as fuck.

Certainly true when I was one