Jude Bellingham

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That's where my head's been at for the last few weeks.

Maybe, maybe, if we hadn't been celebrating the first trophy win of a potential treble or if we had failed to qualify for the Champions League then I'd be arsed.

As it stands, he's a top quality player. We have many of those. If he goes to Real Madrid then fair play to both of them.
He is nowhere near top quality yet.
 
If that's true, then based on everything we are supposed to know about our club, he isn't coming here.
We’re going to get him, Madrid is running around telling everyone that they are going to buy Bellingham for 100m+add ons.

This is not the amount Dortmund wants and they’re in the middle of a title race. I suspect Dortmund are furious with Madrid and will not sell a single player to Madrid this window.

Meanwhile we’ve proven to Dortmund last season that we are respectful and easy to deal with. I mean their CEO couldn’t stop calling us cheats a few seasons ago, why has he stopped now?
 
We’re going to get him, Madrid is running around telling everyone that they are going to buy Bellingham for 100m+add ons.

This is not the amount Dortmund wants and they’re in the middle of a title race. I suspect Dortmund are furious with Madrid and will not sell a single player to Madrid this window.

Meanwhile we’ve proven to Dortmund last season that we are respectful and easy to deal with. I mean their CEO couldn’t stop calling us cheats a few seasons ago, why has he stopped now?

My point isn't about any of the other clubs. It is about us.

If there are two things we have been told over and over again, by Tolmie himself amongst others, it is that a)'the club always want almost total commitment from players that it is us they want to join above all else', and b) that we 'don't do bidding wars'.

If even one, or both, of the earlier claims are true, i.e that he has agreed terms with 4 clubs, and it is now about who can agree a fee with Dortmund, then simply put, he is not our guy.
 
My point isn't about any of the other clubs. It is about us.

If there are two things we have been told over and over again, by Tolmie himself amongst others, it is that a)'the club always want almost total commitment from players that it is us they want to join above all else', and b) that we 'don't do bidding wars'.

If even one, or both, of the earlier claims are true, i.e that he has agreed terms with 4 clubs, and it is now about who can agree a fee with Dortmund, then simply put, he is not our guy.

Like everybody including me and you don't know anything about this transfer, i rather wait until season over.
 
We’re going to get him, Madrid is running around telling everyone that they are going to buy Bellingham for 100m+add ons.

This is not the amount Dortmund wants and they’re in the middle of a title race. I suspect Dortmund are furious with Madrid and will not sell a single player to Madrid this window.

Meanwhile we’ve proven to Dortmund last season that we are respectful and easy to deal with. I mean their CEO couldn’t stop calling us cheats a few seasons ago, why has he stopped now?

If that's all it is, then Romano and a ton of Spanish and German reporters would be left with an egg on their face. Seems unthinkable.
 
My point isn't about any of the other clubs. It is about us.

If there are two things we have been told over and over again, by Tolmie himself amongst others, it is that a)'the club always want almost total commitment from players that it is us they want to join above all else', and b) that we 'don't do bidding wars'.

If even one, or both, of the earlier claims are true, i.e that he has agreed terms with 4 clubs, and it is now about who can agree a fee with Dortmund, then simply put, he is not our guy.

just because he’s explored his options doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be totally committed - i can see what you’re saying because i also only want players who really want to be here - but it’s not good business sense to not see what other clubs can offer in terms of personal terms. he would be daft not to use this as an opportunity to see what other offers are on the table and use that to leverage and negotiate a better deal with the club he chooses. odds on this will be a long term deal and i can’t blame him for wanting to understand what his options are.

i can’t see this being a bidding war - and we would’ve distanced ourselves a long time ago if we thought it would come to that. madrid are just posturing for the media and the fans. i’m fully expecting the whole oil money shebang when he signs for us - poor madrid couldn’t afford him when in reality they never intended paying what he was valued at by BVB
 
Guys he is going to Madrid
We will get someone else, pep will make them a better player and all will be fine
i think he will regret the move and end up at the dippers on 3 years
 
I don’t think Foden is top quality yet and he’s better than Bellingham.

Blimey,youre a hard man to please!

Foden gets in any side in the world......surely that qualifies him as top quality?

They are apples and oranges in terms of comparison,they have the attributes to elevate each others game and the teams overall.
 
My usual rule of thumb when it comes to transfer rumours is the best sources are in the players home country. Not sure that works well with Bellingham but all the sources that are pushing the Madrid story are Spanish.

Unfortunately it’s fairly common for Madrid to big up all potential transfers in Marca for PR. Sometimes those transfers come off sometimes they don’t but it’s very hard to sift the news from the spin.
 
My point isn't about any of the other clubs. It is about us.

If there are two things we have been told over and over again, by Tolmie himself amongst others, it is that a)'the club always want almost total commitment from players that it is us they want to join above all else', and b) that we 'don't do bidding wars'.

If even one, or both, of the earlier claims are true, i.e that he has agreed terms with 4 clubs, and it is now about who can agree a fee with Dortmund, then simply put, he is not our guy.

Whilst I agree generally, it depends on the context.

He has to keep his options open as it comes down to what bid Dortmund accept. I'd imagine, based on what he's said to us we're still in it because we are encouraged we can have our bid accepted. We have the financial power to pay more than anyone else if we really want someone. I'm sure we have our limits, like with Kane, but would Real Madrid pay more than us or really push the price up?

If we sell Cancelo and Laporte or even offloaded their wages then you've already got one hell of a pot for Bellingham.
 
just because he’s explored his options doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be totally committed - i can see what you’re saying because i also only want players who really want to be here - but it’s not good business sense to not see what other clubs can offer in terms of personal terms. he would be daft not to use this as an opportunity to see what other offers are on the table and use that to leverage and negotiate a better deal with the club he chooses. odds on this will be a long term deal and i can’t blame him for wanting to understand what his options are.

i can’t see this being a bidding war - and we would’ve distanced ourselves a long time ago if we thought it would come to that. madrid are just posturing for the media and the fans. i’m fully expecting the whole oil money shebang when he signs for us - poor madrid couldn’t afford him when in reality they never intended paying what he was valued at by BVB

I don't disagree, at all. But the point remains, we take it for granted that the club has a 'model', then what tolm is saying doesn't quite fit in with that. At a point in time, of course.
 
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