PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Rory Bluelow]

Delooney with another steaming pile of horseshit. Interesting that he openly talks of clubs pushing the PL into investigating and punishing us as though that’s perfectly acceptable though. And yes Miguel, when you say that PL rules allow clubs to sue each other, that doesn’t just mean it’s our club that could get sued by those unhappy at the outcome. It also means City can sue every club that we believe has tried to fuck us over too you brain dead twat:

Why Man City’s FFP case could be another Super League moment for football

Other Premier League clubs are carefully watching Newcastle’s prospective new sponsorship deal amid expectation it could have implications for the investigation into City’s finances, explains Miguel Delaney

www.independent.co.uk

He’s a fucking plank.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

He’s a fucking plank.

The entire article is based on the false premise that Newcastle's business model is the same as City's. Newcastle are owned by a Sovereign Wealth Fund and we are owned by Sheik Mansour 73 per cent and Silver Lake 27 per cent. Is it possible that Deloony doesn't know the difference between people from Saudi Arabia and those from Abu Dhabi. They all look the same don't they? Plank is too kind a word.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Deluded eejit lacking ability notably excessive yakking

Or bending the rules slightly, Deluded Eejit Lacking Any Notable Editorial abilitY

 

[Metalartin]

Delusional, Embarrassing Lick Arse, Needy Elitist Yammerer

 

[M18CTID]

The only interesting line in that pile of biased and distorted crap is the one where he is at pains to say the Premier League is "absolutely" making no comment. As if. But it is absoutely clear that he has been given a briefing from one of the PL clubs who are part of the witchhunt against City. He mentions a London source so my money is on Daniel Levy though it could easily be David Gill or someone acting on his behalf.
So the leaking process continues unabated. Someone high up in the PL leaks information about the confidential discussions with City to someone at one of our commercial rivals and they then brief their pals in the media. This is a despicable smear campaign and it shows, once again, that the PL hierarchy are acting in bad faith. Presumably Delaney must think we are all fucking stupid. But he is very bad at covering his tracks.

Great post. And that last bit is spot on - assuming he’s not completely made that article up, Delooney is as thick as pig shit and is basically admitting that stuff is being leaked to him. Also, on what planet are these clubs on if they think they can take action against us even if we are exonerated by an independent panel? In that scenario, there truly will only be one winner.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The only interesting line in that pile of biased and distorted crap is the one where he is at pains to say the Premier League is "absolutely" making no comment. As if. But it is absoutely clear that he has been given a briefing from one of the PL clubs who are part of the witchhunt against City. He mentions a London source so my money is on Daniel Levy though it could easily be David Gill or someone acting on his behalf.
So the leaking process continues unabated. Someone high up in the PL leaks information about the confidential discussions with City to someone at one of our commercial rivals and they then brief their pals in the media. This is a despicable smear campaign and it shows, once again, that the PL hierarchy are acting in bad faith. Presumably Delaney must think we are all fucking stupid. But he is very bad at covering his tracks.

Delaney assured me on Twitter that his "confidential sources" had briefed him that CAS would uphold our CL ban. He's a total bullshitter.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Delaney assured me on Twitter that his "confidential sources" had briefed him that CAS would uphold our CL ban. He's a total bullshitter.

You and others. Lol.

 

[LeonardoDaVnci]

Is that just a coincidence ? but the day after this thread focused on City's options to sue the PL/cartel and MSM outlets an article about PL competitor clubs suing City appears in the Independent. I don't read that paper and have not heard of the journalist in question, but surely he's not that desperate that he has to trawl through BMF for ideas ?

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Delaney assured me on Twitter that his "confidential sources" had briefed him that CAS would uphold our CL ban. He's a total bullshitter.

One common factor with all these leaks is that they usually get some key information wrong. I think some of it is deliberate misinformation and some may be wishful thinking. It is blindingly obvious that Delaney has had information from our rival clubs as is also the case with Panja and Ziegler. That confirms what we all suspect: that the PL hierarchy is passing confidential information about City's legal discussions with PL lawyers to a select group of favoured clubs namely LFC, MUFC, Spurs. and they are briefing the media. The information about City's legal tactics could not have come from anywhere else.
This is precisely what happened with the UEFA probe. I can't believe that all the other PL clubs are happy to be bypassed like this, whatever they think about City. The PL is actng in bad faith and this plays into the hands of our lawyers. Panja is certainly a bullshitter but I don't think he is making this stuff up.

 

[cheekybids]

Get after slime ball Rick Parry . His links with FSG , FSG paying “certain “ “journos” to constantly discredit us and FSG,s links to the NYT . Take Parry down and we blow the mafia apart .

CTID

If they only got Parry & showed his links everywhere & get him banned from being able to serve on football committees. Leave him sleeping on the streets I’ll be satisfied.

 

[Metalartin]

So if I have this right, the anti-city press' new chosen biggest cheat/threat to football is 'equity funding'.

They are arguing that it's dirty and wrong and shouldn't be allowed in any guise. Not even for special circumstances(if made clear to UEFA/the PL) or for infrastructure, which the rules currently allow for.

Or do I have that wrong? Are they saying equity funding is already banned and that "related party isn't a real thing because we don't like it"?

Delaney has also massaged the facts around the 'related party' argument at CAS. All that matters is Sheikh Mansour didn't pay the remaining balance and didn't arrange it at the party that did pay it(which would show he has control), this is the defence Sheikh Mansour put forward(in writing) and they sided with City on that, if I remember right. Any other argument he's making is incorrect.

 

[Rory Bluelow]

Delooney with another steaming pile of horseshit. Interesting that he openly talks of clubs pushing the PL into investigating and punishing us as though that’s perfectly acceptable though. And yes Miguel, when you say that PL rules allow clubs to sue each other, that doesn’t just mean it’s our club that could get sued by those unhappy at the outcome. It also means City can sue every club that we believe has tried to fuck us over too you brain dead twat:

Why Man City’s FFP case could be another Super League moment for football

Other Premier League clubs are carefully watching Newcastle’s prospective new sponsorship deal amid expectation it could have implications for the investigation into City’s finances, explains Miguel Delaney

www.independent.co.uk

What a load of fucking shite. I’m sat on a beach at the moment having a few beers, and I remembered I had an Indy account from years back so pinged off a few comments to the twat. Interestingly he seems to recognising in a few places that these charges are going nowhere !

 

[KS55]

What a load of fucking shite. I’m sat on a beach at the moment having a few beers, and I remembered I had an Indy account from years back so pinged off a few comments to the twat. Interestingly he seems to recognising in a few places that these charges are going nowhere !

He couldnt tell the difference between IAS 24 ‘related’ and the PL’s brilliant new category of associated. Nor that a charge based on ‘associated’ for activity before the rule was created was bound to fail.

 

[HalfwayUpTheKippax]

Deluded eejit lacking ability notably excessive yakking

Deplorable educationally limited abhorrent nyaff emits yada

 

[Metalartin]

He couldnt tell the difference between IAS 24 ‘related’ and the PL’s brilliant new category of associated. Nor that a charge based on ‘associated’ for activity before the rule was created was bound to fail.

Just going to add this, since I had to refresh my own memory:

So, what is an ‘associated party’?​

The Premier League says it will judge an “associated party” on the “substance of the relationship and not merely the legal form”.

An associated party can be defined as having “material influence over the club or (being) an entity in the same group of companies as the club”.

Close family members are also covered, as well as entities holding loan, debt or other security interests.

Also included is when a club and an entity are “directly or indirectly controlled, jointly controlled, or materially influenced by the same government, public or state-funded body or by the same party”.

So, since the Crown Prince is Sheikh Mansour's brother: Etihad and Etisalat would have fallen under associated party. It seems obvious, that they(the cartel) didn't like the argument that City aren't legally owned by the state, despite the relationship Sheikh Mansour has with either the Emir, Crown Prince or the State government in general. It must be great being able to dictate the terms of competition, to the opponent you want rid of.

Regardless, this rule can't be applied to any seasons before it was introduced, as you said. Also, if City's deals have been within FMV, it still would have been a dead end for the whatsapp group's argument. The FMV can only have grown since 2012/13 and City will stay ontop of what their FMV is more than anyone going forward.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Delooney with another steaming pile of horseshit. Interesting that he openly talks of clubs pushing the PL into investigating and punishing us as though that’s perfectly acceptable though. And yes Miguel, when you say that PL rules allow clubs to sue each other, that doesn’t just mean it’s our club that could get sued by those unhappy at the outcome. It also means City can sue every club that we believe has tried to fuck us over too you brain dead twat:

Why Man City’s FFP case could be another Super League moment for football

Other Premier League clubs are carefully watching Newcastle’s prospective new sponsorship deal amid expectation it could have implications for the investigation into City’s finances, explains Miguel Delaney

www.independent.co.uk

That's a poor article for many reasons, but he is right about one thing. The super league introduction turned into a complete farce, so if this is another super league moment, expect it to turn into a farce soon.

One thing he doesn't seem to realise is that by saying the UEFA case wasn't about related parties, he is admitting that Mansour owns the club in a private capacity and we are not "state-owned" due to the GAAP definition of related party. Yet he continues to say we are. Weird.

 

[halfcenturyup]

The entire article is based on the false premise that Newcastle's business model is the same as City's. Newcastle are owned by a Sovereign Wealth Fund and we are owned by Sheik Mansour 73 per cent and Silver Lake 27 per cent. Is it possible that Deloony doesn't know the difference between people from Saudi Arabia and those from Abu Dhabi. They all look the same don't they? Plank is too kind a word.

It's pretty typical of people who don't understand what they are writing about. He continues to call the club state-owned, even after he admits UEFA expressly accepted Mansour has invested in a private capacity, and the alleged breaches make no mention of ownership. Just one of many inconsistencies.

It's ironic that he quotes his source saying the PL is out of its depth on these issues, as that is exactly what he is. No wonder he always looks so sad :(

 

[paulchapo]

Delaney assured me on Twitter that his "confidential sources" had briefed him that CAS would uphold our CL ban. He's a total bullshitter.

Surely action should now be taken against this buffoon? He cannot be allowed to carry on this hatred against us without consequences. Also he has on the record stated that the whole of the premier league are conducting a witch hunt against us and are trying to have us expelled from the league. Those are very serious allegations and he should be forced to back them up.

 

[Indaparkside]

Surely action should now be taken against this buffoon? He cannot be allowed to carry on this hatred against us without consequences. Also he has on the record stated that the whole of the premier league are conducting a witch hunt against us and are trying to have us expelled from the league. Those are very serious allegations and he should be forced to back them up.

Our owners/ club have no backbone I have stated this from day one I fucking hate saying this but there’s no way whiskey nose would have put up with this it wouldn’t have gone on this long believe me. Half of these twats have actually said we’re cheating financial doping etc when no charges have been proven they should of been in court by now getting sued but no we welcome them with free beer, food, and entertainment every week shameful really

 

[paulchapo]

Our owners/ club have no backbone I have stated this from day one I fucking hate saying this but there’s no way whiskey nose would have put up with this it wouldn’t have gone on this long believe me. Half of these twats have actually said we’re cheating financial doping etc when no charges have been proven they should of been in court by now getting sued but no we welcome them with free beer, food, and entertainment every week shameful really

Turning the other cheek and hoping they'll come around hasn't and isn't working. I guess we're stuck with it as that's the way our owners operate.