United (N) | FA Cup Final | Post-Match Thread

AliBobbyJ said:
People saying City didn't play well but they could have been 4-0 up before the "penalty." Three minutes after Gundogan scored his first Dias(?) put a free header wide from a KDB free kick, Haaland went sliding in and was inches away from getting his boot on the ball right in front of goal, then Haaland turned his man outside the penalty area, ran five yards and blasted the ball over the bar. Utd were in disarray till VAR put City off their stride and induced rage & brief despair here.
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Completely agree. The joke VAR call changed the momentum of the game, or rather stunted our momentum
 
Re watching the game on bbc I don’t know why I was so nervous apart from maybe the last 5-7 mins United were shite, I knew it was long ball but until Garnacho came in they created fuck all.
 
Just watched Jacks post match interview again. What a lovely guy, so humble and very candid. Of course his fee will always be controversial but personally I feel he's been good value for City on and off the field. You can't put a price on togetherness, hard work, brilliant technical ability and work ethic. This team has it in abundance and more.
On a side note, the body language from the female interviewers was interesting. They both looked star struck.
 
Doctor Jimmy and Mr Jim said:
Sorry Cleavers I completely misinterpreted what you'd written, my mistake. I thought you'd said he basically only played one pass all afternoon to Bernardo! Think I know the pass you talk about as well...second half, played it out to the right to Bernardo, played it right through the middle of two United players, split them wide open but as you say it was hit too hard and went out of play for a throw near the corner flag.
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Yeah that was the one, right pass slightly overhit.
 
city wright winger said:
The question is a natural position of the hands depends on the situation if a ball is coming at your face with pace the Nature thing is to raise your hands to protect your face and like jack said his arms where there to gain height as he jumps and is airborne so for balance as well the ball didn’t come from a cross it came from a miss placed header from a yard away that scrapped his hand . The ref had a good view of it in normal time and didn’t think it was anything and played on
So no need for VAR to get involved as the hand ball wasn’t deliberate so wasn’t an obvious mistake by the referee
CORRUPT to the core
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Exactly, it wasn't a clear and obvious mistake by the ref, which no one seems to have mentioned.
Yet the casamero challenge which was obviously a mistake by the ref, as he gave a foul for the rags, went unpunished.
Joke.
 
OB1 said:
If you have ITV recorded too, it’s worth watching some of the post match stuff. Great bit they don’t show on BBC that I didn’t spot at the game where the players start the “Gundo’s on Fire” chant. Also, another lovely interview from Jack.
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Cheers mate, I have it recorded & gonna watch it when the wife’s at work, she’s footballed out with a face on to match fergies yesterday :) I love all the off pitch stuff on days like that, you never see it all at the match
 
Blue Maverick said:
Re watching the game on bbc I don’t know why I was so nervous apart from maybe the last 5-7 mins United were shite, I knew it was long ball but until Garnacho came in they created fuck all.
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You were so nervous because when we play United it feels like we have to beat them and the officials. In essence we are facing a 12 man team with the officials being the extra man. Games can change on a dime when poor officiating is in play.
 
Most things have been said to death, but, one major moment needs to be savoured in particular.
Johnny Stones in, I think the 47th minute - tried to make a mental note as it was so good - when he took the ball under pressure on the edge of our box; controlled; drop of the shoulder; turned and strolled out towards the half line, leaving 3 scummers trailing in his wake.
Absolutely top, top drawer. M.O.M. for me.
 
But does anyone know the young guy who the Beeb kept showing. He stood out a mile with his red/black shirt amongst the sky blue hordes around him and he was definitely enjoying himself. Seriously the Beeb must have shown him on about six different occasions.
 
Was frustrated watching the final , thought our perfomance was underwhelming , but i have just watched the highlights reel and we could and should have scored six or seven and we gave the Rags f*ck all.
Only confirms the gulf in class between us and the Rags , we play in 2nd gear and still win fairly comfortably , apart from a last minute goal mouth scramble the Rags were outclassed.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
Grealish was rightly still upset and shaken by it in the interview afterwards. Glad a stellar season from him hasn't had the shine taken off it, but it could have done. What a mess.
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Regardless of the result, City need to write to the FA/Pigmol demanding an explanation of the different standards of refereeing for both clubs.
 
Dribble said:
So now you can see the problem facing the rule makers of the game. \0/

I've asked for anyone to give me a solution to these handball conundrums in a sentence, & as of yet no one has. All I've had is even more opinions/interpretations muddying the waters even further.

How does football resolve this to the satisfaction of the majority? I've no idea mate...
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For me the most obvious consideration is did it change the trajectory of the ball in any meaningful way. It not case closed it it did then consider intent proximity etc. At least get rid of the faintest glances that don't impact where the ball ends up being given
 
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OB1 said:
The officials have to judge, and I’m fine with that. I think you can write guidance that helps avoid stupid decisions. Penalties for handball for example must only be given for offences that, if they are not clear cut infractions of the laws, have significantly adversely affected the attacking team.

You can’t turn referees into robots. They have to use their judgment. We had a classic example of the ref getting that horribly wrong yesterday when he penalised Akanji for almost getting his ankle broken by Casemiro, who should have had an “orange” card.

We also saw judgement that could be questioned when KDB was not awarded a pen because ref and VAR decided. that Fred had not impeded him. I’m not sure they got that one right but I’m not adamant that they didn’t. I do think it was more of a pen than the Grealish handball.
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Hence the problem. If it's purely down to the ref & VAR to judge based on their opinion & interpretation, the team who benefit & the team affected will be apoplectic with rage & the fans will give reactions from the ref & VAR being incompetent, or plain bent.

I've absolutely no idea how we can get around this, hence why I understand the current rule about natural/unnatural arm positions, leaving players to know the risks they're running.

I'm just glad it's not me having to make this handball ruling decision. Whoever has to make it is damned if they do, damned if they don't! Rather them than me! Lol :-)
 
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