United (N) | FA Cup Final | Post-Match Thread

StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
I see the fantasy that United "got back into the game" is still being peddled. ..............
Can anyone remember Ortega having to make a save? The only one that comes to my mind was the block in the second minute of stoppage time. I believe it was the old rag, Dublin, who said it was "men against boys"
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The biased **** actually said, "Unfortunately, it was men against boys."
 
Dribble said:
Proximity was the issue when it was if the ball hits your hand in the penalty area, it was a penalty.

They then watered it down with hand to ball, ball to hand & proximity.

Those have been replaced by unnatural position, proximity & hand to ball. It's still open to interpretation & as it stand I'm fucked if I know what the rule is THIS WEEK, as it'll probably be different to what it was last week.

I've no idea how the football authorities intend to resolve this to the satisfaction of the majority...
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Only way to take the interpretation out of it is that if a ball hits your hand in the penalty it’s hand ball. There’s too much for a ref to spin it how they want. Distance to player, speed of the ball, position of the arm, is he looking at the ball. Another day that gets waved on and ignored and probably wouldn’t have been given the other end.
 
The letter of the law hasn't changed: what has changed are the instructions on what grounds handball is to be judged deliberate. The laws of the game are still intended to ensure that the game is played fairly and that matches are not decided by deliberate foul play. These instructions are not intended to "allow" the referee to make perverse or plainly stupid decisions, as was the case on Saturday. The problem that the authorities have is to ensure that referees are respected, trusted and make judgements which do nor favour one side. This is not the case as far as Saturday is concerned. This decision, made by VAR but accepted by the referee, ignored factors which had to be taken into consideration and saddled the FA cup final with yet another irrational decision. Jack Grealish was NOT guilty of deliberate handball and no penalty should have been awarded in that instance.
 
Deedee2 said:
All of this fussing could be changed if handball becomes an indirect free kick offence - unless it stops a goal in the penalty area.
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Or "stops a goal scoring opportunity"? But doesn't this open another can of worms? We can't trust the ref and we can't trust VAR - that's the real problem.
 
kaz7 said:
Love how trent got away with proper handball in that game v us , when it was said var was not on that day , i can believe that

Red shirt no pen, blue shirt defo pen , thems the rules
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Must be linked to all their cctv cameras around & outside the ground .
Must of forgot to top up the meter.
 
EXCL [emoji599] Manchester United are considering sending Mason Greenwood out on loan to a club in Europe next season

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Scum being the scum of the earth and they would pay the other club to take him!

It’s disgusting they should of sacked him like any other business would of done! Utter scum
 
Dribble said:
Proximity was the issue when it was if the ball hits your hand in the penalty area, it was a penalty.

They then watered it down with hand to ball, ball to hand & proximity.

Those have been replaced by unnatural position, proximity & hand to ball. It's still open to interpretation & as it stand I'm fucked if I know what the rule is THIS WEEK, as it'll probably be different to what it was last week.

I've no idea how the football authorities intend to resolve this to the satisfaction of the majority...
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They will only resolve it to the satisfaction of teams that play in r*d.
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
It would have been interesting to know which United players were targeted by WB's header since there are none in any kind of range. The penalty area was peopled by blues, so Jack was not seeking to gain an advantage. Nor was it a penalty by the letter of the law, because the law still requires handball to be deliberate. As I have said earlier Jack was not trying to cheat nor was he trying to gain an advantage by breaking any rule: he was not looking at WB or the ball but simply trying to turn to see the play and THE BALL HIT IS HAND. VAR chose to reach the perverse conclusion that Jack had handled the ball deliberately. Those who seek to justify such stupidity are ruining the game and trying to make the outcome of cup finals dependent on nothing more than chance.
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Yes people still don't understand that the penalty wasn't given according to the laws of football, it was given according to the interpretation of the law made by the referees. There is nothing wrong with the law.
 
I know a certain other match is on our minds so i'm a bit late at replying again in this thread ;)

But i wanted to say my heartfelt thanks to the replies i've had in here - you've genuinely moved me, we've been feeling very isolated and abandoned in looking after mum, so to hear such supportive words, it meant more than i can express. Thank you again.

And here's to tomorrow... i've decorated mums room and also our flat head to toe in city things to try and create an atmosphere to go some way into making up for not being there or being at a screening.. but we're here, alive, that's what counts, Come on city!

<3
 
There was an excellent chap next to me who was shouting, singing and directing prime abuse at the Scum fans throughout. Grabbed me in a bear hug when Gundo hit in his second. Wondering if he posts on Bluemoon (if he is reading, I was in Block 123, Row 42, Seat 24 - the chap from New York who grew up in Cheshire).
 
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