The Titanic

hammocity said:
An expert on tonight’s Dan Walker show said about the tragedy even a very small hole puncturing the vessel would fire a jet of water in at such huge pressure it would kill you.

I used to visit a place called TMC in Tytherington which cuts all kinds of materials accurately by Waterjet at 87000 PSI (means nowt to me) including metals and alloys for the Aerospace Industry, very high safety standards for obvious reasons.
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Those high pressure water jet cutters are incredible. It’s astonishing what water can do.

I’ve seen videos on them cutting massive lumps of solid rock.
 
It is sad that a young lad has died at the whims of his father, but I just don't get how if they sealed themselves in a windowless pipe and was gonna look at the remaihs through a streamed link not with their own eyes did they not
a)not bother and jist send a drone dowm to see exactly the same streamed images
b) the boat captain didn't just blag them and lower them into the ocean enpugh to feel lile they were deep underwater then send a drone and let them think they were captqin nemo while safely bobbin around on a winch completely unaware.

Seems a senseless waste just to watch a tv screened camera show on a whim, as Cameron has said the whole thing was doomed from the start
 
urban genie said:
It is sad that a young lad has died at the whims of his father, but I just don't get how if they sealed themselves in a windowless pipe and was gonna look at the remaihs through a streamed link not with their own eyes did they not
a)not bother and jist send a drone dowm to see exactly the same streamed images
b) the boat captain didn't just blag them and lower them into the ocean enpugh to feel lile they were deep underwater then send a drone and let them think they were captqin nemo while safely bobbin around on a winch completely unaware.

Seems a senseless waste just to watch a tv screened camera show on a whim, as Cameron has said the whole thing was doomed from the start
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Could it be that you don't climb Everest just for the view at the top? The getting there is the real buzz
 
urban genie said:
It is sad that a young lad has died at the whims of his father, but I just don't get how if they sealed themselves in a windowless pipe and was gonna look at the remaihs through a streamed link not with their own eyes did they not
a)not bother and jist send a drone dowm to see exactly the same streamed images
b) the boat captain didn't just blag them and lower them into the ocean enpugh to feel lile they were deep underwater then send a drone and let them think they were captqin nemo while safely bobbin around on a winch completely unaware.

Seems a senseless waste just to watch a tv screened camera show on a whim, as Cameron has said the whole thing was doomed from the start
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It does have a window to view it through. Well, it did

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urban genie said:
It is sad that a young lad has died at the whims of his father, but I just don't get how if they sealed themselves in a windowless pipe and was gonna look at the remaihs through a streamed link not with their own eyes did they not
a)not bother and jist send a drone dowm to see exactly the same streamed images
b) the boat captain didn't just blag them and lower them into the ocean enpugh to feel lile they were deep underwater then send a drone and let them think they were captqin nemo while safely bobbin around on a winch completely unaware.

Seems a senseless waste just to watch a tv screened camera show on a whim, as Cameron has said the whole thing was doomed from the start
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There is a plexiglass window at the front made from acryllic, which is likely to have shrunk under the intense pressure, causing the implosion. It was brought up during the construction process that it would not be capable of deep sea exploration but was apparently ignored with a "it'll be fine" attitude.
 
Metal Biker said:
There is a plexiglass window at the front made from acryllic, which is likely to have shrunk under the intense pressure, causing the implosion. It was brought up during the construction process that it would not be capable of deep sea exploration but was apparently ignored with a "it'll be fine" attitude.
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I can't for the life of me understand why you would ignore safety advice when undertaking something so dangerous. What the fuck did they think would happen?
 
Elbow beards said:
I can't for the life of me understand why you would ignore safety advice when undertaking something so dangerous. What the fuck did they think would happen?
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Cost-cutting, supposedly. They were proud of the fact they'd built a submersible on the cheap.
 
urban genie said:
It is sad that a young lad has died at the whims of his father, but I just don't get how if they sealed themselves in a windowless pipe and was gonna look at the remaihs through a streamed link not with their own eyes did they not
a)not bother and jist send a drone dowm to see exactly the same streamed images
b) the boat captain didn't just blag them and lower them into the ocean enpugh to feel lile they were deep underwater then send a drone and let them think they were captqin nemo while safely bobbin around on a winch completely unaware.

Seems a senseless waste just to watch a tv screened camera show on a whim, as Cameron has said the whole thing was doomed from the start
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Cameron went to the wreck 33 times, do we know how ? Because it was obviously safer than this method ??
 
Blue and true said:
You're right, you wouldn't make the six o'clock news. But this did, primarily because it involved the titanic, which many have a morbid fascination with, and also because there was a real chance the people on board were about to suffer an agonising death. It was always going to be headline news. You suggested people wouldn't be bothered if you fell to your death from a ladder, which is nonsensical. Because the people close to you would surely be cut up.
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Sounds like a large ladder if it causes collateral damage
 
Elbow beards said:
I can't for the life of me understand why you would ignore safety advice when undertaking something so dangerous. What the fuck did they think would happen?
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Hubris alert!

'I'd like to be remembered as an innovator,' said CEO Stockton Rush. 'I think it was General (Douglas) MacArthur who said: "You're remembered for the rules you break." And you know, I've broken some rules to make this.

'I think I broke them with logic and good engineering behind me. The carbon fibre and titanium, there's a rule you don't do that – well I did.

'There's picking the rules that you break that are the rules that will add value to others and add value to society, and that really to me is about innovation.'
 
pride in battle said:
Cameron went to the wreck 33 times, do we know how ? Because it was obviously safer than this method ??
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He went in a few different ones and even ended up making his own. But they're usually very small (1 or 2 man). These cowboys wanted a bigger one so that they could accommodate paying passengers. This resulted in them cutting loads of corners and breaking loads of established rules, with cost and ultimately profitability being the main factor.
 
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