Declan Rice

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Stating your hopes as facts doesn’t make them any more true!

Nice fantasy and all that, but back in the real world City are building our next great team around exciting young players like Haaland, Foden, Alvarez, Dias, Rodri, Lewis and very likely Gvardiol.

Another dose of reality for you - both City and Arsenal have Managers whose contracts currently end in summer 2025, and no-one knows what will happen in either case next. Pep could extend and Arteta could leave. Or both could be gone. Or your scenario could play out. I doubt either Manager knows 100% - and players will know that better than anyone, so won’t be basing their life decisions on wild speculation around scenarios that may or may not play out in over two years time.

Sorry to burst your Sunday morning fantasy, but it’s best to stick to facts to avoid making yourself look like a twat.

I wasn’t stating hopes as facts…that’s your strawman. Merely pointing out that as attractive as City are, Arsenal are not without their selling points too. My feeling that City may have reached their zenith is an opinion which is not wildly improbable.
 
so what you're saying is you're the future and our run is nearly over, to be honest with you blud, if we wanted one of your young "stars" im pretty certain they would be very excited to come and play with the original pep, not a pep 2.0 without the knowledge or experience to change things when things need changing, you lot were screaming for arteta's head a year ago, he copies pep ,but didnt know what to do when it started failing, arteta should of stayed at city and completed his education,now he will always be the nearly man,good but not quite good enough fam.

You’ve been watching too much AFTV
 
If so what is to gain with this from a City side? Surely that means Arsenal are the only team in the race (Rice has chosen Arsenal) and wants Arsenal to pay up. That’s surely telling as it gets RE Rice to City
It fab and ornstein said that city will bid and fab even said we checked with the players camp who is open to the move?

At this point no one knows anything. Every piece of info is contradictory.

The only hope I hold is that there is no way guys like Fabrizio and ornstein came out with the info that we will bid unless we were sure rice is open to joining us. That would be poor otherwise if we decide to bid without 100% ascertaining the players interest in the move. Which I don’t think is the case tbh.
 
It‘s clearly not a fact given my use of the word ‘likely’ but it’s my view the probability is that he will leave in 2025
And therein lies the problem. I know this is a forum, and forums are about opinions. The issue is many of us don’t Labour under the illusion that our opinion matters. I have my opinions about Arsenal but they’re not so important that I need to go and spend time on your forum. I think Arteta or one of the squad should go around to every Arsenal season ticket holders gaff, give them a slap around the face and belly laugh at them for spending all that money so they can waste it on flattering to deceive during a good season.

But it doesn’t matter because it’s just my opinion.

Have you got one of those dual branded Hackett / Aston Martin tops whilst driving a Kia Sportage?
 
I suspect this season just ended will mark the high water point of this City team’s success.
Think that’s why Pep is building a new one. A treble , 3 in a row on top of the 100ponts , domestic treble and all the other trophies may have satiated the desire of some players but not Pep. He will replace anyone not hungry for more or not able to contribute or willing to work their way back into the team. It’s brutal but think it will keep us competing for every competition we are in. Am hoping to see angry Pep again next year so hopefully Arsenal can co-ordinate another leaked letter to get him fired up. I also don’t believe anyone can believe Arteta is safe at Arsenal, expectations will have been raised but nothing has been won. Teams tend to start a season how they ended the last one and unlike the Klopp team who maintained the push and form when we beat them this Arsenal side looked mentally shot. A bad start after big money spent will cause questions to be asked and Arsenal fans and teams tend to throw in the towel quickly.
 
It‘s clearly not a fact given my use of the word ‘likely’ but it’s my view the probability is that he will leave in 2025
And Arteta by then will be into his fifth season without winning the title. In fact I’d say this is your biggest season under his management, he’s on a knife edge now , anything less than top four and another title challenge and he could be toast , what will be the excuse for spending another £250m?
 
And Arteta by then will be into his fifth season without winning the title. In fact I’d say this is your biggest season under his management, he’s on a knife edge now , anything less than top four and another title challenge and he could be toast , what will be the excuse for spending another £250m?

And tries to copy Peps tactics and fails miserably.
 
wow @Jack Hackett , you've been quite a decent poster for nearly 6 years on bluemoon, all of a sudden arsenal have a good season and youve turned into a bit of a ****, we've had all this shit everytime one of the supersunday 3 makes a good season only to fall back.

now fuck off you snake, posters from other teams are more than welcome,snide wums aren't
 
Methinks you do protest too much. I’ve no idea if Rice will sign for you but to say Arsenal under Arteta isn’t also an attractive proposition is to be somewhat dismissive. As for City continuing to rule the roost…maybe they will but I doubt it because every empire in history has ultimately come to an end. Yours maybe not next year or even the year after that but it will sometime come to an end. Nothing lasts for ever. Obviously, I’m hoping that Arsenal are ready to take advantage of that when it happens.
I completely agree that we will decline at some stage just like every other successful team in the past. But my hope is that we are trying our best to stave that off as long as possible and don't fall into the trap that others have in thinking that we just deserve to win by nature of who we are.
 
We already made 100m+ profit from previous windows, and we have 300m from the treble price money. It's not an issue for us.

Always good hearing from the club accountant.

I didn't say it was, I was talking about timing


Honestly do think that when Gvardiol gets done

Then a massive bid for Rice will go in. We are not messing about this window. Kovacic done early, Gvardiol looks to be getting there.

Could honestly see us just put down the fee West ham want.


We mess about every window. We probably always will, with Tixiki and the Messers.
 
wow @Jack Hackett , you've been quite a decent poster for nearly 6 years on bluemoon, all of a sudden arsenal have a good season and youve turned into a bit of a ****, we've had all this shit everytime one of the supersunday 3 makes a good season only to fall back.

now fuck off you snake, posters from other teams are more than welcome,snide wums aren't

Goes with the territory doesn’t it with them lot?
 
Firstly, given the potential of our young players. If you mean Saka, Saliba and Martinelli, what about Foden, Alvarez and Lewis. That's before we even start on the academies. Yes, I've seen yours and from what I've seen Nwaneri isn't good enough for us but you put him on a pedestal.
As for that last statement, when we achieve the quadruple (Community Shield. Premier League, FA Cup, Carabao Cup) plus the silly UEFA and FIFA cups that go with it and Champions League in one season, then that will be the ultimate, ultimate.
We ain't nowhere near our high water point.
What about one Erling Haaland...
 
wow @Jack Hackett , you've been quite a decent poster for nearly 6 years on bluemoon, all of a sudden arsenal have a good season and youve turned into a bit of a ****, we've had all this shit everytime one of the supersunday 3 makes a good season only to fall back.

now fuck off you snake, posters from other teams are more than welcome,snide wums aren't
Is Jack back hadn't noticed him lately
 
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