It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

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JWCH-99 said:
Right hear me out on this one- juventus want rid of pogba- city wanted him last summer and so did guardiola. As a stop gap for a year or so he’d be no older than a gundogan but offers the multi functional type player that guardiola likes while also being able to replace the goals/assists. Injury prone players have been sorted out by city medical team in the past also. I know it’s mad, but if they were keen last summer why not this summer? There is no denying under pep he could be phenomenal
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If that happens I will show my arse in Burtons window..............
 
Bernard20 said:
I have only just seen that Joshua Kimmich’s middle name is Walter… I already wanted us to sign him, but that has put it on another level!

Walter Kimmich and Walter Foden running the midfield in front of Rodders.
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Erling Walter Haaland​

Walter Kimmich | Walter Milinković-Savić | Walter Foden​

 
Vester said:
Worth mentioning that Veiga had the biggest over performance between goals and expected goals (xG) in the Spanish league (11 goals from 6.1 xG). Which either means his finishing level is so elite Haaland should ask him for advice on how to be a better finisher, or that he had somewhat of a lucky streak and its extremely unlikely he would be able to keep these kind of goal scoring numbers up unless his performances improve greatly. With that said, he is obviously young and will improve over time. I just think he would definitely not have been mentioned with the clubs he is and for that €40m fee if he had only scored the 6 goals that was expected from the amount of chances he had. According to the data that is :)
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Remember reading a similar stat about Nunez after he joined the cult. Basically his goals far exceeded his xg meaning everything he hit seemed to go in and thst wasnt sustainable. And was proved correct
 
BlueCityfan said:
I think if we have a big drop off in the future (and that's a big if). The blame has to be laid on the board. A part of me believes that Pep's genius (and him being the best manager of all time) has covered some of the flaws in our recruitment.
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The transfer market is not closed yet and that's your conclusion? How about you step away from the computer and do something else instead.
 
oldhamblue said:
Remember reading a similar stat about Nunez after he joined the cult. Basically his goals far exceeded his xg meaning everything he hit seemed to go in and thst wasnt sustainable. And was proved correct
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His record over the previous year was almost identical to Alvarez (both exceptional), and Alvarez had far exceeded his xG too.
 
Gumzy97 said:
Looks like he can certainly strike a ball, some very good finishes in here


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Sure, that has usually been the case when someone has over performed their numbers by a considerable amount. But 11 goals from 6 xG is such a huge over performance that its completely unrealistic to expect anyone to keep that up over time. Not even prime Messi or Ronaldo over performed their xG with anything close to that (percentage wise). A world class finisher scores on average around 8 goals from 6 xG. Considering the small sample size, its just much more likely he would revert to scoring something similar to what is expected over time. But like I said, he is young and of course will most likely improve in the future as well!

In my opinion, its one of the easiest traps to fall into is buying someone who during a few months or a season performs on a level the underlying numbers say is unsustainable over time. Vlahovic is a recent example, Darwin Nunez another one. Jesse Lingard had a few months in West Ham when he had a crazy over performance as well. Unless the player in question is a proven over performer over time the underlying numbers should be seen as a more accurate picture of what the player actually offers. Just my opinion :)
 
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Vester said:
Sure, that has usually been the case when someone has over performed their numbers by a considerable amount. But 11 goals from 6 xG is such a huge over performance that its completely unrealistic to expect anyone to keep that up over time. Not even prime Messi or Ronaldo over performed their xG with anything close to that (percentage wise). A world class finisher scores on average around 8 goals from 6 xG. Considering the small sample size, its just much more likely he would revert to scoring something similar to what is expected over time.

In my opinion, its one of the easiest traps to fall into is buying someone who during a few months or a season performs on a level the underlying numbers say is unsustainable over time. Vlahovic is a recent example, Darwin Nunez another one. Jesse Lingard had a few months in West Ham when he had a crazy over performance as well. Unless the player in question is a proven over performer over time the underlying numbers should be seen as a more accurate picture of what the player actually offers. Just my opinion :)
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Most of us understand the basics of math, and in certain city and the scouting team do too. Not to discredit your post as I agree with it, but I have loads of confidence in city if they’re after someone.
 
lol yank said:
Most of us understand the basics of math, and in certain city and the scouting team do too. Not to discredit your post as I agree with it, but I have loads of confidence in city if they’re after someone.
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Yeah I think Veiga could be a good signing over time. I would not just expect him to have much more of an impact than someone like say Ferran Torres (different positions, I know) had during the first year or so if we sign him. With that said, I have only seen him play 3 or 4 times so City obviously knows a lot more about him than what I do. If the rumors are true and we are actually interested in him, I personally would be surprised if we are. But I'm just a dumb fan, City are professional and perhaps the best in the business so they obviously know what they are doing.
 
decmancity said:
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A lot happened with him, not all good. One moment I would like to remember of him is the COVID Chelsea match when Ederson was unable due to his COVID problems. Steffen made a leaping save just as Chelsea seemed to be looking good, and without having gotten all three points at that particular time, things could have gone terribly wrong. Fernandinho and the squad pulled together somehow.
 
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