PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

LongsightM13 said:
What I’m hearing from a dick who tbf had been wrong a lot but tbf who got CAS verdict 100%
We’re getting done again on the non co-operation issue. The equivalent of resisting arrest from a copper who is trying to fit you up for a murder you didn’t commit
But they HAVE to do us for something as a political sop
Pretty much everything else has been dismissed and destroyed
A fine that won’t touch the sides and a one window transfer ban. With another window ban suspended
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Very interesting news. Did the person say when this judgment/execution would be passed?
 
I also cant see we come out of this unscathed. The reason for the whole smear campaign, the whole 100+ charges is to get something stick so they can keep discrediting our club for years to come, even worse they give us some crucial penalties even.

PL, the red cartel and their huge network of media clowns work hand in hand over this against us..
these useless football journos becoming guardians of human rights and saviour of financial fair play, oh fuck off. most of them know as much about human rights and finances as a dead rat.

hope Qatar takes over United, the 180 spin will be amazing to watch. all of a sudden there will be good arabs and bad arabs and how much the world cup helped to improve the issues in Qatar and they are on the road to redemption.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
www.mirror.co.uk

Arsenal's Visit Rwanda sponsorship and the dark side to a sportswashing agenda

Arsenal and Paris Saint-Germain both have multi-million sponsorship agreements with the Rwandan government but the actions of authoritarian president Paul Kagame and the arrest of Paul Rusesabagina have led to allegations of human rights abuses
www.mirror.co.uk www.mirror.co.uk

Oops.
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2010s and laterEdit​


A map of incarceration rates by country.[30]
In the lead-up to the 2010 presidential election, the United Nations "demanded a full investigation into allegations of politically motivated killings of opposition figures". André Kagwa Rwisereka, the president of the Democratic Green Party of Rwanda, was found beheaded. "[A] lawyer who had participated in genocide trials at a UN tribunal was shot dead". There was a murder attempt on Kayumba Nyamwasa, "a former senior Rwandan general who had fallen out with Kagame". And Jean-Léonard Rugambage, a journalist investigating that attempted murder, was himself murdered.[31][32]

In 2011, Amnesty International criticized the continued detention of former transportation minister and Bizimungu ally Charles Ntakirutinka, who was seven years into a ten-year sentence at Kigali central prison.[33] Amnesty International called him a prisoner of conscience and named him a 2011 "priority case".[33]

In October 2012, the body of Théogène Turatsinze, a Rwandan businessman living in Mozambique, who was thought to have "had access to politically sensitive financial information related to certain Rwandan government insiders", was found tied up and floating in the sea. Police in Mozambique "initially indicated Rwandan government involvement in the killing before contacting the government and changing its characterization to a common crime. Rwandan government officials publicly condemned the killing and denied involvement."[34] Foreign media connected the murder to those of several prominent critics of the Rwandan government over the previous two years.[35][36]

To improve the perception of its human rights record, the Rwandan government in 2009 engaged a U. S. public relations firm, Racepoint Group, who had improved the image of Libya's Gaddafi, Tunisia, Angola, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, and Senegal. An internet site was set up by BTP advisers, a British firm, to attack critics. Racepoint's agreement with the government stated that it would "flood" the Internet and the media with positive stories about Rwanda.[37]

In 2020, regime critic Paul Rusesabagina who had fled the country and become a Belgian citizen, was tricked into boarding a private flight to Rwanda, arrested, and the next year sentenced to 25 years in prison on charges that human rights advocates called politically motivated.


Critics of the Rwandan government dead or missingEdit​

 
LongsightM13 said:
What I’m hearing from a dick who tbf had been wrong a lot but tbf who got CAS verdict 100%
We’re getting done again on the non co-operation issue. The equivalent of resisting arrest from a copper who is trying to fit you up for a murder you didn’t commit
But they HAVE to do us for something as a political sop
Pretty much everything else has been dismissed and destroyed
A fine that won’t touch the sides and a one window transfer ban. With another window ban suspended
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thought we have said all along we have co-operated, would be interesting to see how that one sticks then. im sure if we believe we are innocent then we would be only too glad to show them the books.
 
Ric said:
I imagine the likes of Lawton and Ziegler, amongst many others, have been digging relentlessly since the PL charges were announced. The fact that this is all they have managed to come up with makes me more confident than ever that there is no smoking gun. It’s just a rehash of the UEFA charges, and I expect us to be cleared again.
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True but what about the charges that.our grass was.too long ? :-)
 
Norbiton said:
If you think back to 2012/13 City still thought they could pass FFP, just, because of the leeway offered by wages of players signed before its introduction being discounted. But it was only just, every penny was crucial at that time. It was suggested that Mancini’s pay off might derail it. So the £30 million advance payment against the Etisalat sponsorship was definitely necessary even if it broke no rules. Of course in the end it was futile, we’d already been deemed to fail on the 2011/12 accounts and had to accept the slap on the wrist. Trying to revive this now and suggest further penalties are appropriate all seems a bit desperate
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Didn't uefa also move the goalposts once.we.had submitted our accounts ? As khaldoon said "we had no option but to take a pinch , that won't happen again"
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Sounds like a win to me, but I would doubt the tribunal has reached a verdict yet.

Unless this is all stage managed?

A bit like someone has to interview for a job they've already been told they have got?

Even so, that would be a brilliant outcome.
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I would read that as an offered settlement, but, as I said earlier, I doubt Khaldoon and Mansour are in much mood to settle.

Edit: Maybe that is why this latest "offensive" on Etisalat is coming now, to pressure the club into accepting.
 
Shirley said:
Migs is at it again..


Man City scandal is not about fair play – it’s about fraud​


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seriously the club need a word with this ****
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The problem is that he is right. According to the legal guys on here that is exactly what the PL are alleging.

The good news is that they won't have a snowflake's chance in hell of proving it, unless they have incontrovertible evidence that will outweigh our explanations and witness statements. Trust me. They don't.

The other problem for the PL is that the severity of the allegations precludes a settlement unless the PL unequivocally states that there was no evidence to support the claims of fraud. That would be PL suicide. Mansour and Khaldoon aren't stupid. They know that if they settle the usual suspects will just be saying they settled because they were guilty. That's what happened in 2014 - apparently we were "convicted" then even though both parties settled to avoid a lengthy and costly process. They won't be allowing that to happen with allegations of fraud. Shame for the PL because I am sure they would like to settle right now.

So, most likely, we just have to wait for the process to run its course.

All imho, of course.
 
wolviedinho said:
Think he is talking about the piers Morgan hatchet job yesterday. £30 mil unaccounted for because Mansour’s mate paid it. YouTube sleuths strike again with a weasel faced ass presenting.
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So the one payment that we freely acknowledge was originally paid by Mansour is now being challenged on the grounds that it was paid by someone else? They need to get their story straight
 
LongsightM13 said:
And City apparently won’t even accept that deal.
The ‘taking a pinch’ compromise thing still apparently hurts our owner’s sense of honour and City are likely to appeal even that
We’re finally on the offensive now apparently
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too fucking right they shouldn't, its an absolute outrage, a two window ban for nothing, a piss take

anyone with knowledge of the prem rules know what the punishments are/can be for misdemeanour's
are there any precedents gone before
but i suspect there are making it up for the cartel
 
LongsightM13 said:
What I’m hearing from a dick who tbf had been wrong a lot but tbf who got CAS verdict 100%
We’re getting done again on the non co-operation issue. The equivalent of resisting arrest from a copper who is trying to fit you up for a murder you didn’t commit
But they HAVE to do us for something as a political sop
Pretty much everything else has been dismissed and destroyed
A fine that won’t touch the sides and a one window transfer ban. With another window ban suspended
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If that were to be the outcome, I would bet the club would challenge any transfer ban. A fine, wouldn't bet either way.
 
bluwes said:
if you really drill down on it, it’s actually:5; charges
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It really isn't. It is still 115 or (whatever the big number is) charges.

Technically, you can group it all into 1 'charge' if you really want to. People have done that with 5 groups of related charges. But they are all still individual charges.
 
I know the ITK's are saying this will go on for years.
But the increase over the last week of shit throwing at City makes me wonder if something is about to happen. It seems to have gone into overdrive.
Throw as much shit as possible because in a few weeks time City are cleared. Properly wish full thinking on my behalf

Its either the press/media are really pissed of City did the treble, which I find hard to believe. So that only leaves the charges.

Obviously I have no proof it's just a gut feeling, they has to be a reason for the increase in shit thowing.
 
LongsightM13 said:
What I’m hearing from a dick who tbf had been wrong a lot but tbf who got CAS verdict 100%
We’re getting done again on the non co-operation issue. The equivalent of resisting arrest from a copper who is trying to fit you up for a murder you didn’t commit
But they HAVE to do us for something as a political sop
Pretty much everything else has been dismissed and destroyed
A fine that won’t touch the sides and a one window transfer ban. With another window ban suspended
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Fuck that on the transfer window ban! Why??? For non co-operation??
 
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