I suspect you didn’t read the post. I literally gave you Lavia as the one exception. We will see how Brahim does at RM again. I still don’t think he is good enough for our standards regardless of where he’s playing.To counter that Lavia is wanted by our direct rivals. Not some middle tier Premier League clubs or Championship teams. Brahim Diaz is now back with Real Madrid first team after a successful loan spell at AC Milan.
Shiny players is chasing players we don't really "need" and want new signings every transfer window.The use of “shiny” is ridiculous, it implies we sign as an extravagance. We sign the players we need. The point you’re making that we sign players who aren’t better than the EDS kids or that don’t improve us has no foot in reality. Furthermore, you can’t argue an Academy kid is “better than” if they haven’t been extensively tested in a competitive level in which we operate. You can’t claim that by looking at how they look against PL2 or Championship sides
I did but most of the players that have been discussed here aren't better than we have got or more expensive for what they are. That Japanese player being the latest. I leave this thread as there is plenty of baiting going on.I suspect you didn’t read the post. I literally gave you Lavia as the one exception. We will see how Brahim does at RM again. I still don’t think he is good enough for our standards regardless of where he’s playing.
we are only discussing replacements because certain players may be on the way out, not arguing they should be signed “in addition to”.I did but most of the players that have been discussed here aren't better than we have got or more expensive for what they are. That Japanese player being the latest.
There is a good chance we may "walk away" from Gvardiol.
Depends what the actual hold up is. I doubt it is down to them finding a replacement.There is also a good chance we sign him too.
No , but you can’t argue that they aren’t. The only ones that can are the coaches that watch them every day. They will be the ones that decide one way or the other.Furthermore, you can’t argue an Academy kid is “better than” if they haven’t been extensively tested in a competitive level in which we operate. You can’t claim that by looking at how they look against PL2 or Championship sides
I think it’s clear it’s a difference in valuations. We walked from Rice for the same reason just weeks ago and many others in the past. We probably have an alternative in mind, Colwill or we might not even be able to move Laporte on although I do think he’s done.Depends what the actual hold up is. I doubt it is down to them finding a replacement.
That’s a really good point. What ever happened with this?Riquelme
The coaches haven’t seen them against tough opposition either. I have seen more than a hundred players in my life that were supposed to make it after their Academy and just didn’t pull off the “jump”. It’s an uncertaintyNo , but you can’t argue that they aren’t. The only ones that can are the coaches that watch them every day. They will be the ones that decide one way or the other.
McAtee isn't unproven though, is he?Pep has specifically talked about the issue in the past of how the Academy kids come out unproven as opposed to the “Barcelona B” model he suggested for England, to much criticism.
To look at the Academy as a feeder of the first team is a mistake, absolute false “common sense”. The truth is the majority just aren’t good enough for our standard as proven by what happens when they leave. People here want kids in the first team that leave and are underwhelming in the Championship. The reality is they are in fact there to provide money to the club, as is the case with every club. When exactly do we waste money on signings that don’t improve us instead of using the Academy products? I will grant you one example. We’d have been better off having kept Lavia instead of buying Phillips. But even that takes requires knowing how his last season away went to know. To compete at the place we aim, it is through carefully scouted signings that we improve and win, simple as that. There is a level to be maintained that doesn’t allow for concessions to advertise the Academy in detriment of trophies. If it were up to this forum, last year we would have sold Ake to Chelsea and replaced him with Mbete (and of course never signed Akanji). And won fuck all
Reported as us having absolutely no interest.That’s a really good point. What ever happened with this?
My argument regarding Barcelona B is to show how Pep sees things, not me. And I wasn’t really talking about McAtee either.He was very good for a team who won promotion to the Premier League and reached an FA Cup semi-final.
The Championship is miles above the dross that Barcelona B play week in, week out.
So you're argument doesn't really stand up to any real scrutiny.