Lucas Paqueta investigated by FA for alleged betting breaches

[Coatigan]

Did I say we would bid 80m for Mitoma though?

I said I would, I never said the club would.

If you are trying to compare Paqueta's CV to Mitoma's CV... I wouldn't bother. If you talk to most premier league fans they would say they'd rather have Mitoma in their side than Paqueta.

I value Mitoma higher than Paqueta because I think he's better.

You argued it would be a good fee, a bargain even, so I assumed you thought it was a goer for the club at that price.

What do you base knowing the opinion od most PL fans on?

Paqueta is unquestionably the more proven and acomplished player. And harder/more expensive to buy out of his contract.

Doesn't necessarily make him 'better' granted, although they play different roles.

Personally, not sure which I'd rather. Quite different impact on the overall team. I would agree that Mitoma would appear the more exciting, over a given 5-10 minutes, which is all you think you need.

I ultimately don't think Paqueta will get done though, think the price will be too Prohibitive. I think Mitoma would seem the more likely, purely because he would be a lot lot cheaper than Paqueta. But doesn't mean the club wouldn't rather pay more for Paqueta. I watch with interest.

 

[ElMago_DSilva]

Yep, it's happening.

Does sound promising that.

Let's hope we can agree at 75m and close for the summer.

 

[Ghostofmerlin]

I feel like Moyes really likes Philips. Bet that is what is going on.

 

[Sir Joe Aguero]

We are talking about a system where midfielders have to arrive in the box, to score.

David Moyes has never played that type of football. His team has been dominated 90% last season. You simply cannot shine in a team like that.

Why did he go there then? He didn’t do well at Milan either. Just seems another case of Joao Felix - an expensive player with a few nice clips on YouTube that we constantly get told will play better in another system.

Anyway, we’re not going to agree. If we get him, happy to be proven wrong and look stupid the end of the season.

 

[supercity88]

This thread is moving at pace so the majority didn't bother to see I was replying to Prophet of Doom and their post prophesying doom.

 

[Haaland94]

But he came to the premier league and didn't do anything at West Ham.

He wasn't as good as I'd thought he'd be anyway.

I do really like him and think he will be far better at a better side...

But if I'm watching last season, Mitoma's stock is higher than Paqueta's.

Yeah, I can understand that. I am a big fan of Mitoma. I would love to get both.

 

[leo_city]

Does sound promising that.

Let's hope we can agree at 75m and close for the summer.

A loan for McAtee could solve their attacking midfield problems

 

[zandvoort blue]

Own up, which one of you is Barry Silkman

 

[DMA's]

Reckon palmer could be used in any deal. Shame borges isn’t still with us

 

[p.taker]

Youd often wonder why we dont snap these guys up before they move to other clubs. Could of got him at lyon

But we didn't - West Ham did. And City won the treble.

 

[ElMago_DSilva]

A loan for McAtee could solve their attacking midfield problems

Could be worth doing.

I'd prefer to keep Palmer this season as he's a good outlet for us.

 

[Manc123]

Typical City well out of the blue this transfer

kind of makes it a bit more exciting it all appears a bit random to us fans but the club must have a plan

 

[richards30]

Palmer or Phillips to the hammers?

 

[TFC]

I wonder if he'll be in the market for a new motor if he comes to Manc?

 

[KingGeorge]

Youd often wonder why we dont snap these guys up before they move to other clubs. Could of got him at lyon

Probably not worth the risk. Given we are competing for trophies year in and year out it is probably better if they have a larger body work that we can scout thus minimizing the chances of acquiring a dud. We can afford to pay the extra money it costs after they develop further at another club.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I wonder if he'll be in the market for a new motor if he comes to Manc?

You a car dealer of highly expensive cars ? :)

 

[jrb]

Not getting involved in the debate about him being a good signing or not. Only time will tell that if he signs for City. But a lot of West Ham fans don't seem that bothered about losing him. They would rather West Ham take the money and sign one or two other midfield players. The general consensus seems to be he had a good latter part of the season, but was pretty average the rest of the season.

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[vincent]

Not getting involved in the debate about him being a good signing or not. Only time will tell that if he signs for City. But a lot of West Ham fans don't seem that bothered about losing him. They would rather West Ham take the money and sign one or two other midfield players. The general consensus seems to be he had a good latter part of the season, but was pretty average the rest of the season.

He was never going to be a success in a team managed by Moyes and that was struggling.

 

[supercity88]

I like reading you're comments on here fella. Sorry but this is taking the piss.

Under no circumstances can you think Harry Maguire is a good signing whether it's £30m or a Free Transfer!

He's absolutely shite. The Rags were stupid enough to pay £80m for him that's their fault same way they paid £100m for Pogba. The high price of player doesn't automatically make you good. Conor Coady, Tyrone Mings and Eric Dier all played for England too. They are also bobbins.

Horrendous signing if West Ham buy him.

I think much like some of the opinions of Paqueta, it's about systems. Maguire isn't going to perform in a side that want to play it out from the back and defend with a high line. But at West Ham under Moyes he's ideal. The ball will go long quickly the majority of the time, they'll look to counter and score from set pieces with Ward Prowse, and Maguire is a threat from those. Defensively they'll sit deep and Maguire will be a lot better in that system.

As bad as he's been for the rags, they're shite and he's been the target for a lot of it. £30m is a pretty good deal considering his experience. He's not world class, but he's a good signing for West Ham's level with respect to them. £60m for Maguire and Ward Prowse is good business.

 

[decmancity]

Our bid for Rice suggests we were not prepared for life without Gundogan quite just yet, not even going for Mac Allister, not even Szoboszlai.

also we’re prepared to give Walker a new deal, so why not Gundo?

It’s easy to assume I’ve had some twitter like meltdown calling out Txiki which isn’t even the case, the people here are deflecting in responses.

While we eventually needed to replace Gundogan and Mahrez, given their age, keeping Gundogan wouldn’t have done any harm. We’ll find a solution with or without a Paqueta but looking at the market it’s really hard to argue against keeping him or getting Mac Allister

I don't think Rice was connected to it at all, it was well known we had interest in him.
Probably didn't go for either of them two because they were already going to the dippers. Not particularly fussed in all honesty about them.

So because Walker got one that means Gundogan gets one, how does that work? I guess Walker only got one because Carson got one as well?

City were clearly very happy to keep Gundogan. Fact is, he didn't want to be here. He wants to sit in the sun, eating tapas on his terrace overlooking the Sagrada Família with his wife and child. Not sat in the rain having a tepid tea in deansgate.