Media Discussion - 2023/24

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foggy1974 said:
Had that been written by Winter, Delainey or any of the numerous City haters, I'd be fuming but Samuel is different. He's always come across as fair-minded when it comes to City
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Exactly this. It’s like all the balanced and considered stuff he’s written counts for nought in some quarters.
 
Gingers Dad said:
No idea but I'm not saying Ferguson would have got rid of Greenwood because he's a champion against domestic abuse.
It's been clear since the story first broke that Greenwood was finished. Ferguson would have made it look like utd had taken the moral high ground.
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Yes maybe he would, but was the whiskey nosed twat blind to all of Giggs's "indiscretions" ?
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I think Ferguson’s nose for these things was generally sound. He got rid of Whiteside, McGrath, Ince and Beckham at (there or thereabouts) their peak (and was criticised for so doing at each respective time) because he felt (correctly) that they were bad for the wider atmosphere in the dressing room, and/or were a distraction from (and for) the rest of the squad. I’m pretty sure he would have recognised this in Greenwood. Whatever he was, he was a streetwise survivor and that instinct would have given him the good sense to get rid well before this pitiful testing of the waters by the club.

As you say, it was clear to anyone applying common sense to the evidence that was in the public domain that this case was distinguished from others involving allegations of sexual offences against footballers, and the way united have acted in relation to this is all in keeping with the amateurish way the club is run under the Glazers, who are grossly incompetent in a way that sometimes defies belief. It’s actually not impossible for me to conceive that they are deliberately sabotaging the club, such is their catalogue of, and talent for, failure.

The lack of criticism that club gets in the media for things City would be publicly flogged for (FFP ‘minor’ breaches’ being the apotheosis) is an absolute fucking disgrace.

In fact, ironically enough, given the turn of debate in this thread, relative to their success and the application of their considerable resources to try and achieve it, the way the club is reported in the press today is far more egregious and tendentious than when Ferguson was at the helm.

They are a basket case of an organisation who are afforded a level of respect in the media that is wholly unwarranted.

Fucking clown car cunts.
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Evidence of his timing to get rid was Keane for being a bit of a hot head in the changing room & displaying the qualities why he had him there in the first place.

He didn’t care if it made him a hypocrite as long as the team kept on winning.
 
We’ll never know of course but it would be interesting to know how Greenwood would’ve developed under Ferguson. From what we hear about his management ‘style’ he’d have known exactly what Greenwood was up to and where he was up to it. Maybe recent managers did and chose not to get involved but I’d hazard a guess Ferguson would’ve bounced him very quickly if he thought he couldn’t get through to him.
 
Bozzie said:
We’ll never know of course but it would be interesting to know how Greenwood would’ve developed under Ferguson. From what we hear about his management ‘style’ he’d have known exactly what Greenwood was up to and where he was up to it. Maybe recent managers did and chose not to get involved but I’d hazard a guess Ferguson would’ve bounced him very quickly if he thought he couldn’t get through to him.
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Ravel Morrison says hi….
 
By no means convinced Ferguson gives a f**k about modern United, every management failure adds to the man's legend. Any success now could not be attributed to him as he has been retired ten years and the current back room is very different to his. He didn't seem very distressed at the cup final, wondered how he felt about sitting near Beckham who he f****d off. Think Ferguson loves himself vastly more than he loved United who he saw as a cash cow and means to an end.Hes not a patch on Matt Busby who was a gentleman but a vast improvement on Tommy Docherty who was a c**t.
 
The glaring difference between the Ferguson years and now is that the current team is massively underperforming and winning nothing.
Ironically the loss of the likes of Keane and Beckham in the Ferguson era was much easier to deal with as the club were being successful at the time and able to absorb the loss. However the present team are nothing short of shockingly average (I’m being kind!) and the loss of a bright star such as Greenwood is far greater on pitch and financially, hence their pathetic efforts to do all possible to hand on to the little horror.
The club have come out of this very badly.
They’re run by a bunch of useless cunts and may that continue for a very long time!
 
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