What is a good salary?

oldius said:
I suggest you proclaim it as rhetoric because you have no argument against it.

In simple terms:

Pay is too low. Houses are too costly. The cost of living has soared.

We are one of the global leaders in tax avoidance.
Our politicians declare essential services unaffordable.
The average house is now nearly 10x the median UK salary.
Our economic growth has stagnated for a decade.
We top up the pay of private sector low-paid workers.

Does that feel right to you?
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Like it or lump it it’s the way of the world that doesn’t work on the basis of ideology. We are all economic units that can charge an economic rent for our services on the basis what other people are prepared to pay. If you think you are worth more just go out in to the jobs market and find somebody to pay you more. That’s how it works in the private sector.
 
halfmist said:
Like it or lump it it’s the way of the world that doesn’t work on the basis of ideology. We are all economic units that can charge an economic rent for our services on the basis what other people are prepared to pay. If you think you are worth more just go out in to the jobs market and find somebody to pay you more. That’s how it works in the private sector.
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Yet you support subsidised wages?
 
oldius said:
Yet you support subsidised wages?
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Nope, I support the going for the job. If the Government of the day decide on ideological grounds to top up someone’s income to encourage them to work for what ever reason, that’s up to them
 
halfmist said:
I will sleep well tonight knowing I could lead your life anytime I like, but you will never be in a position to lead mine and that’s why we will never meet so no need to worry about avoiding me.
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Nobody wants to live your life. Only very pathetic cunts have this sad obsession.

I pity you, only very insecure people have to flash the cash to get validation.

All that "wealth" and no heirs. What a sad bastard you are.
 
A good salary is subjective to the individual and his/her lifestyle and circumstances. I know people who earn a very modest salary and get by and I know a couple of people who earn £150k who struggle due to their lifestyle choices.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I’ve worked in the private sector, for a couple of PLCs, and am now self employed, engaging professionally with the public sector daily.

Based on my experience, the notion that the private sector (overall) is discernibly more efficient than the public sector is a fucking lie.

I’ve seen so much waste in large commercial organisations.

Large organisations (public and private) generally are to a significant extent wasteful and inefficient. Perfectly stands to reason.
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As a self employed person then I assume your subject to market forces, your as good as your last job, you get paid what somebody thinks your worth and there is no Union behind you to artificially inflate your income by threatening to withdraw your labour on your behalf.
 
halfmist said:
Nope, I support the going for the job. If the Government of the day decide on ideological grounds to top up someone’s income to encourage them to work for what ever reason, that’s up to them
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We have a different ethos, clearly.
I certainly do not value people purely on what they earn.
We can build a better society than one that speaks of people as economic units touting for the dollar.
We can have a fair taxation system and stop widespread avoidance, with will.
The additional revenues can be used to provide proper services, health and social care.
We can expect a decent day's pay for a decent day's work.

You can describe it as rhetoric, or wish good luck on getting a government to implement it. I describe it as a goal, a vision, and an achievable mindset.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Nobody wants to live your life. Only very pathetic cunts have this sad obsession.

I pity you, only very insecure people have to flash the cash to get validation.

All that "wealth" and no heirs. What a sad bastard you are.
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Nope no sadness just enjoying life to the full, not bitter about anyone else and most importantly not relying on any one else to stand on my own two feet. Happy Days.
 
oldius said:
We have a different ethos, clearly.
I certainly do not value people purely on what they earn.
We can build a better society than one that speaks of people as economic units touting for the dollar.
We can have a fair taxation system and stop widespread avoidance, with will.
The additional revenues can be used to provide proper services, health and social care.
We can expect a decent day's pay for a decent day's work.

You can describe it as rhetoric, or wish good luck on getting a government to implement it. I describe it as a goal, a vision, and an achievable mindset.
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There are just too many people in the Country ever to make real changes down at the individual level. If there was a redistribution of wealth very quickly things would soon start to revert back, some would make money others would lose it. Human nature
 
halfmist said:
As a self employed person then I assume your subject to market forces, your as good as your last job, you get paid what somebody thinks your worth and there is no Union behind you to artificially inflate your income by threatening to withdraw your labour on your behalf.
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I’m the best at what I do. Doesn’t mean I have to be a ****, though.
 
If we’re talking about net salary I’d say 40k a year is more than liveable on that.

Reading through this thread with some on 65 - 80k per year, that’s just wow money to me, I would be seriously comfortable getting those numbers.
 
balotellishaircut said:
If we’re talking about net salary I’d say 40k a year is more than liveable on that.

Reading through this thread with some on 65 - 80k per year, that’s just wow money to me, I would be seriously comfortable getting those numbers.
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Depends where you live though doesn't it. You could be getting that and living in a studio flat in London, or spending several hours a day commuting.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Depends where you live though doesn't it. You could be getting that and living in a studio flat in London, or spending several hours a day commuting.
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I get what your saying mate but I can only speak for myself, you can actually receive a good salary but live above your means, the situation in London is just bonkers whatever salary you’re on.
 
The hike of the state pension next April taken from this Septembers inflation figures
Means that due to the governments freeze on the tax allowance for 2-3 years we are close to actually paying tax on that pension alone.
Add in anyone with even a small pension pot
And that’s you state pension taxed.
Considering I’ve paid in 43 years of national insurance so far it’s a fucking joke.
This government know what they are doing.
 
roach3 said:
The hike of the state pension next April taken from this Septembers inflation figures
Means that due to the governments freeze on the tax allowance for 2-3 years we are close to actually paying tax on that pension alone.
Add in anyone with even a small pension pot
And that’s you state pension taxed.
Considering I’ve paid in 43 years of national insurance so far it’s a fucking joke.
This government know what they are doing.
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If only your last line was true !

Its a joke that you've paid in 43yrs and yet you will get no more than someone who has only paid in 35yrs. If you put more in, you should get more back out, even if those other 8yrs are at a reduced rate.
 
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