Dispatches/Sunday Times investigation: Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

[Mr Kobayashi]

Noel Gallagher is a really good friend of anyone famous.

Like Morrissey and Brand he's also a massive narcissist.

 

[kippax123]

Noel Gallagher is a really good friend of anyone famous.

Noel Gallagher is a really good friend of anyone famous.

You have a very good point but Noel is in loads of stuff on social media with him over the years and comes across like they are pretty close.

 

[madloaf]

Like Morrissey and Brand he's also a massive narcissist.

People repeatedly told their shit smells great think their shit smells great.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

People repeatedly told their shit smells great think their shit smells great.

Shit being the operative word.

 

[Odd socks]

I know. I'll honestly be gutted if it turns out to be him.

Just got in and I'm glad it's not the person who was being suggested in the early speculation.

 

[PinkFinal]

It's just becoming more and more obvious that society is insane. Genuinely.
Politicians celebrities etc just think they can do as they like.
And narcissism seems to be secretly admired if accompanied by superficial charm.
Anyone not a self obsessed tit increasingly seen as a bit weird and old fashioned.

 

[urban genie]

I confused by this , "they are after him because he expose corporations stick", confused as to how anyone could try to defend him with this clear bollcoks opinion

who has he exposed? when did he make a dent in business? and who honestly even listens to him?

Saw some gimp defending him say he has 6 million subscribers, he is the voice of the people being shut down, no he fucking isn't

8,045,311,447 people in the world
378,904,407 people in North America (his target audience)
62,670,000 people in the UK

He is a nobody, his 6M subscribers are a speck and his right wing conspiracy crap the irrelevent shite it is, however, he has been in movies and was a regular on british tv 15 yrs ago, so an expose of his wrong doings is not unexpected, but it isn't to bring down someone exposing corruption or coporate dealings.

 

[blueinsa]

I can’t fucking stand this guy, talentless mouthy prick but these are serious allegations and as ever, he should be presumed innocent until proven otherwise.

I’m really uncomfortable with the way cases like this are now Mainstream news. Guilty or not, his career and life as he knows it is now over and that can’t ever be right.

Throw the key away if he is found guilty, no issues but these cases should not be out in the open like this.

 

[LesBleuMiserable]

Apparently various women are accusing him of rape, so why have they gone to a TV company and not the police? It's another trial by media and I smell people looking for a payday

Mendy was guilty by the media and according to CPS, they were both desperate to find him guilty especially with the retrial. Seems money was the focus for many in Mendy’s trial and the media narrative created a closed mentality. For a free alleged media society I did not see diversity of opinion of courage from our media. Our media is not diverse or as free as we want to think. Its ownership is concentrated in a few hands and they follow the lead from the top. Trial by media seems to be the norm now. Let’s just see the evidence before judging. Mendy’s accusers and the media at large had a lot to spout and print, but his lawyers and the jury found a different reality. I’ll be reading and listening without prejudice.

 

[Coatigan]

I can’t fucking stand this guy, talentless mouthy prick but these are serious allegations and as ever, he should be presumed innocent until proven otherwise.

I’m really uncomfortable with the way cases like this are now Mainstream news. Guilty or not, his career and life as he knows it is now over and that can’t ever be right.

Throw the key away if he is found guilty, no issues but these cases should not be out in the open like this.

What I'm even more uncomfortable with, is how quickly we as a society turn allegations of a half famous person into yet another front of a culture war. The last dozen or so pages being a prime example.

Never liked him or his material, so never paid any real attention. For whatever reason, I thought he was 'left wing' 'anti-establishment'. But honestly never cared enough to really bother finding out any more. Now I read he is 'right wing' 'anti-establishment' and a conspiracy theorist.

Not that either is in any way relevant to his conduct or the allegations. But part of me thinks that it doesn'tmatter which side he falls on, the exact same arguements would be happening, in reverse, and completely bypassing the allegations themselves.

 

[LesBleuMiserable]

Did someone mention 'high profile comedians'?

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Being a bit picky, but does not work for me without their new goalie

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I can’t fucking stand this guy, talentless mouthy prick but these are serious allegations and as ever, he should be presumed innocent until proven otherwise.

I’m really uncomfortable with the way cases like this are now Mainstream news. Guilty or not, his career and life as he knows it is now over and that can’t ever be right.

Throw the key away if he is found guilty, no issues but these cases should not be out in the open like this.

If guilty, there’s a sort of ironic justice.

After watching a couple of his YouTube segments it was clear to see that he was an ‘Andy Tate’ type manipulator, influencing those with, let’s say, not much of a life, to his way of thinking, and instead of getting instant gratification by way of his ‘predatory’ instincts, he was now grooming those lost souls in society for his own means - financial in this case.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I can’t fucking stand this guy, talentless mouthy prick but these are serious allegations and as ever, he should be presumed innocent until proven otherwise.

I’m really uncomfortable with the way cases like this are now Mainstream news. Guilty or not, his career and life as he knows it is now over and that can’t ever be right.

Throw the key away if he is found guilty, no issues but these cases should not be out in the open like this.

I agree to an extent, trial by media doesn't quite sit right. Why don't the people accusing others of these crimes just go to the police. Nothing illegal in this course of action and as others have pointed out, investigative reporting has been going on a long time and quite often it leads to prosecutions.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

I agree to an extent, trial by media doesn't quite sit right. Why don't the people accusing others of these crimes just go to the police. Nothing illegal in this course of action and as others have pointed out, investigative reporting has been going on a long time and quite often it leads to prosecutions.

Maybe women in these situations look at the appalling lack of conviction figures, around 2%, and just don’t trust the police?

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Amazes me how it's 2023 and people still think charity work is any kind of indicator of character.

 

[pudge]

I agree to an extent, trial by media doesn't quite sit right. Why don't the people accusing others of these crimes just go to the police. Nothing illegal in this course of action and as others have pointed out, investigative reporting has been going on a long time and quite often it leads to prosecutions.

Yes because when tasked to do their job regarding accusations of sexual assault, the police always do things above board...

This is what it takes, rightly or wrongly, to get a just decision either way

 

[blueinsa]

What I'm even more uncomfortable with, is how quickly we as a society turn allegations of a half famous person into yet another front of a culture war. The last dozen or so pages being a prime example.

Never liked him or his material, so never paid any real attention. For whatever reason, I thought he was 'left wing' 'anti-establishment'. But honestly never cared enough to really bother finding out any more. Now I read he is 'right wing' 'anti-establishment' and a conspiracy theorist.

Not that either is in any way relevant to his conduct or the allegations. But part of me thinks that it doesn'tmatter which side he falls on, the exact same arguements would be happening, in reverse, and completely bypassing the allegations themselves.

Hope you’re not suggesting that “sides” are literally looking for opportunities to “nail” perceived political opponents here?

Completely agree with your post btw.

 

[blueinsa]

If guilty, there’s a sort of ironic justice.

After watching a couple of his YouTube segments it was clear to see that he was an ‘Andy Tate’ type manipulator, influencing those with, let’s say, not much of a life, to his way of thinking, and instead of getting instant gratification by way of his ‘predatory’ instincts, he was now grooming those lost souls in society for his own means - financial in this case.

I wouldn’t have a clue as I don’t watch him or Tate.

 

[urban genie]

Yes because when tasked to do their job regarding accusations of sexual assault, the police always do things above board...

This is what it takes, rightly or wrongly, to get a just decision either way

Unfortunately the MET amd GMP have been riddled with sexual assault acuations about some officers, in the country alone. around 1500 reports of police officers abusing women were filled in 2022

Along with the conviction rate, and stigma still attached to women who have been assaulted by many it is understandable why some women think revealing their attack to an investigative journalist tipped off and who contacted them would bring more attention to their attack

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I wouldn’t have a clue as I don’t watch him or Tate.

I’ve not watched much either but can say that you aren’t missing much.