Dispatches/Sunday Times investigation: Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

There's no sophistry there. I just think you have a high opinion of yourself for no discernible reason. Perhaps it's because you have some deep insecurity and are massively overcompensating.
Well, if knowing I don't need or require your approval is having a high opinion of myself, then guilty as charged. :)

I'm happy you are able to diagnose me off message board disagreements in opinion. I'm sure that says more about you than it does me.

I imagine you as the sort of simpleton who reads the complete works of Robert Faurisson and David Irving and attempts to strike up a positive conversation about it at the dinner table.
Never heard of either before. But predictably I knew they must be terrible people. This is par for you. Smear by false association. You've done it before.

Unlike you, I'd rather attack what you've said on this pages... Not some figment of an overactive imagination.
 
If he is being targeted by government and media because he's a violent sex criminal again, I don't see the issue.
Does the government have a history of targeting or hiding and covering for nonces? Perhaps they are turning a new leaf and this should be celebrated. But on the off chance that they aren't turning a new leaf, this is worrying.

Nobody cares about his charlatan views, they just simply don't carry the weight he thinks they do.
Perhaps not. But the government shouldn't be strong arming private entities over accusations related to a private citizen. This is beyond odd.
 
Does the government have a history of targeting or hiding and covering for nonces? Perhaps they are turning a new leaf and this should be celebrated. But on the off chance that they aren't turning a new leaf, this is worrying.


Perhaps not. But the government shouldn't be strong arming private entities over accusations related to a private citizen. This is beyond odd.
Yes.
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Well, if knowing I don't need or require your approval is having a high opinion of myself, then guilty as charged. :)

I'm happy you are able to diagnose me off message board disagreements in opinion. I'm sure that says more about you than it does me.


Never heard of either before. But predictably I knew they must be terrible people. This is par for you. Smear by false association. You've done it before.

Unlike you, I'd rather attack what you've said on this pages... Not some figment of an overactive imagination.

It's nothing to do with the fact that you disagree with me and everything to do with your values and how you conduct yourself.
 
It's nothing to do with the fact that you disagree with me and everything to do with your values and how you conduct yourself.
My values lean conservative. But somehow you think I should be ashamed of my values. I'm not.

But for what it's worth, you are not a particularly good representation leftist values. Or perhaps you are. Hmmm...
 
My values lean conservative. But somehow you think I should be ashamed of my values. I'm not.

But for what it's worth, you are not a particularly good representation leftist values. Or perhaps you are. Hmmm...

Sorry you misunderstood the point, you don't have any values.
 
Inevitable.

The free thinkers have gone bananas because the chair of the culture committee wrote a letter asking companies not to pay Brand for his videos on their platforms.

Therefore, the cult here and across the pond have got involved.
I was actually quite involved in the debate early on in this, but I’m out.
I just don’t get what’s to be gained by certain attitudes, to everything controversial.

It gets tedious.
 
I was actually quite involved in the debate early on in this, but I’m out.
I just don’t get what’s to be gained by certain attitudes, to everything controversial.

It gets tedious.

I think it's something to do with culture wars and conspiracies.

Why those two things are the most important rather than the questions of whether he did and what are the appropriate sanctions and actions to prevent similar events in future, I'm not anymore clearer on that than you.
 



Russell Brand may be a horrible person. And if he is he is guilty he should be convicted and thrown in jail.

But the government using this as an attempt to silence him is not a conspiracy. It is a fact.
@domalino


Multiple things can be true at the same time. Russell could be a degenerate. But the government might also be purposely targeting him today for his past acts because of his actions today that they disagree with.


Why does this idea seem so complex?

It is not a “fact”.

You can’t just make up a new meaning for the word “fact”.

In fairness, I don't know. But you shouldn't conclude that just because I don't know why he may be targeted , that means he isn't being targeted

Which is implied in the tone of your question.

What is the more likely explanation for what is happening now?

1) Brand—a self-confessed once sex addict, drug addict, and “horrible arsehole”—committed many acts of sexual misconduct, abuse, and potentially rape over a number of years, and a four year investigation based on mounting discussion within the industry revealed that he had at least four victims with strong enough cases against him to pass a bevy of lawyer checks and high level media exec sign offs to be published in a major exposé by investigative journalist which Brand, on the advice of his lawyers, did not attempt to stop via legal action or officially rebuke (even after the program aired), with many more women now coming forward to speak to abuse they suffered at his hands.

2) There is a many year conspiracy, perpetrated by the UK government, Dispatch, The Sunday Times, an increasing cabal of women that don’t have any connection to each other aside from Brand and have almost nothing to gain from accusing him (and, in many cases, quite a bit to lose), and likely hundreds of other people to silence a comedian grifter who was becoming increasing irrelevant and was absolutely no threat to any government.
Well, both Rumble and TikTok declined the government request. And Rumble posted the letter.

It's almost certain now that the immediacy of YouTube and Paramount's suspension of Brand is most likely as a result of a similar letter to those released by Rumble and Tiktok.


Perhaps that's what it is. It's wrong and worrisome.


I suppose they like their own degenerates more than they do degenerates who don't like them. This makes them human.

It is not “almost certain”. There is no evidence a letter from someone at the UK Parliament was the reason YouTube demonetised his channel (they didn’t suspend him) or Paramount suspended production.

You are taking adding two and two together and getting a bushel of bananas.

My values lean conservative. But somehow you think I should be ashamed of my values. I'm not.

But for what it's worth, you are not a particularly good representation leftist values. Or perhaps you are. Hmmm...

Only in your mind do you values—based on your comments on a great many subjects, events, and topics over the years—do you merely “lean” conservative.

You make ridiculous assumptions supported by no evidence, try to redefine what “fact” means, claim massive, implausible conspiracies for anything that happens to far-right nutters you admire, and constantly claim moral and intellectual impartiality and superiority.
 
Not channel 4. Watch the Hill reporting video I posted. The UK parliament or at least someone in it did. I assumed the UK parliament was the government.

I could be wrong.
You are wrong (again), you clown.
Government comes from within Parliament and is made up of the Political Party with the majority of MPs in the House of Commons. Parliament is comprised of two 'Houses' (Commons and Lords) that work on behalf of UK citizens to check and challenge the work of Government.
If you aren't aware of that simple fact, it brings into question your opinion on any issue!
 
It is not a “fact”.

You can’t just make up a new meaning for the word “fact”.
It's a fact that government officials are pressuring private companies about their associations with Brand.

What is the more likely explanation for what is happening now?

1) Brand—a self-confessed once sex addict, drug addict, and “horrible arsehole”—committed many acts of sexual misconduct, abuse, and potentially rape over a number of years, and a four year investigation based on mounting discussion within the industry revealed that he had at least four victims with strong enough cases against him to pass a bevy of lawyer checks and high level media exec sign offs to be published in a major exposé by investigative journalist which Brand, on the advice of his lawyers, did not attempt to stop via legal action or officially rebuke (even after the program aired), with many more women now coming forward to speak to abuse they suffered at his hands.
Yes, no one is debating that there was an investigation by TV and Newspaper into his life and his horrid acts.

2) There is a many year conspiracy, perpetrated by the UK government, Dispatch, The Sunday Times, an increasing cabal of women that don’t have any connection to each other aside from Brand and have almost nothing to gain from accusing him (and, in many cases, quite a bit to lose), and likely hundreds of other people to silence a comedian grifter who was becoming increasing irrelevant and was absolutely no threat to any government.
This is a figment of your imagination. No one has said any of this. It's silly to think anyone thinks this. This however doesn't stop the government from using the legitimate missed of someone to target them.

It's not the accusations of rape or assault that's the conspiracy. Rather the use of it to achieve other outcomes.

Clearly, with all the evidence gathered l, surely a court case and jail term is in order. The government if they want can even move forward and prosecute him.

Why a parliament member or body is using the the influence of government to pressure private companies beat me.


It is not “almost certain”. There is no evidence a letter from someone at the UK Parliament was the reason YouTube demonetised his channel (they didn’t suspend him) or Paramount suspended production.
Yeah, having seen the letters to the other companies, I think it more likely than not the reason why YouTube and Paramount acted so quickly.. You don't. Difference of opinion.

You are taking adding two and two together and getting a bushel of bananas.



Only in your mind do you values—based on your comments on a great many subjects, events, and topics over the years—do you merely “lean” conservative.


You make ridiculous assumptions supported by no evidence, try to redefine what “fact” means, claim massive, implausible conspiracies for anything that happens to far-right nutters you admire, and constantly claim moral and intellectual impartiality and supe
Same has been said of you and your ridiculous claims. Even on this thread by people who in fact agree with you. But found your claim so ridiculous they had to check it.

So heal thyself doctor!
 
You are wrong (again), you clown.
Government comes from within Parliament and is made up of the Political Party with the majority of MPs in the House of Commons. Parliament is comprised of two 'Houses' (Commons and Lords) that work on behalf of UK citizens to check and challenge the work of Government.
If you aren't aware of that simple fact, it brings into question your opinion on any issue!
The UK parliament is not the government? Well, I didn't know that
 

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