Two minors suspended by club for offensive chanting at Brighton game | 17 year old charged by GMP (p29)

Centurions said:
I've not read the entire thread but weren't they identified because they posted it on social media? The club can't ignore that if someone tells them. You can't honestly believe that the club deliberately didn't attempt to identify the scum who threw the pot of coins?
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Mad how the club is getting stick from its own. The club didnt ask for this incident to occur.
 
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LangleyBlue1970 said:
In our era, yes. Infact no, it wouldn’t even have been a thing. We live in a different era now, though.

They posted their immature nonsense from the stadium, hours after Charlton’s death was confirmed. In this era of having to be seen to act, the result is this. It is harsh, but the club likely had little choice under the circumstances.
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But the club didn't have to go about it the way they have, did they? Unless we accept that fans are now such completely disposable or replaceable entities that they can be used in whatever fashion necessary for the club's optics.

These two were being unpleasant little twats but it doesn't alter the fact that the club threw them under the bus with a completely disproportionate response because it suited them. It is what it is, the price of success and having smart business people running a club in the modern era of football is that the concept of the fan in the traditional sense disappears. We are all just economic units and Khaldoon and Pep can spout all the bollocks they like about us but actions speak louder than words. So the Idea that the club didn't have a choice I think is wrong, they made a choice. A very harsh one which shows where their priorities lie.

I've loved watching the current team but anyone who thinks fans are anything more than economically valuable window dressing these days is living in the past. If as part of that window dressing we do anything that compromises the brand and makes the passers by less happy we'll be removed and chucked in the basement. We're already seeing that some window dressing brings in more money than others and increasingly more of us will be seen as tired out mannequins, a bit scuffed round the edges, and off to the basement we go too.

Actually to strangle the life out of the analogy, we have a double problem. We are window dressing in a shop window where half the passers by are a bunch of fucking Karens who are full of self-righteousness and entitlement, ready to complain how this shop window isn't as good as the old one. There's Karen Rag, Karen Dipper, Karen Tarquin etc and worst of all Karen who works in the media. So as shop window dummies we all have to look that much prettier than the rest just to be allowed to stay in the window because our management have no interest in telling the Karens to fuck off. Meanwhile the Karens get what they want and go back home with their little victory to the shops they own or work for, which in some cases are festering run down poundshops with window displays you'd cross the road to avoid. Our management are ok with this model because at the end of the day, it's just a few shop dummies and they're easily replaceable.
 
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Centurions said:
I've not read the entire thread but weren't they identified because they posted it on social media? The club can't ignore that if someone tells them. You can't honestly believe that the club deliberately didn't attempt to identify the scum who threw the pot of coins?
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But surely the person who throw the pot came from a row and seat number, how hard can it be to rewind the cctv ? Then City give the row and seat number to the dippers who than forward the details to City
 
give it to gordon said:
But surely the person who throw the pot came from a row and seat number, how hard can it be to rewind the cctv ? Then City give the row and seat number to the dippers who than forward the details to City
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Well apparently it's impossible, I'm sorry but if the choice is either just accepting that or believing that they're deliberately not looking then there's only the one option for me.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
Should’ve just said they hadn’t heard the news at the time and were singing about a mate called Bobby.

I’m so glad I ain’t young anymore. Got up to all sorts of mischief as a kid & young adult.
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And this is the thing now. Take away the incident and whether it’s punishment fits or not, we are all watched like hawks. Camera everywhere. You can’t move without potentially being filmed by someone.

Have a fall pissed up? You’re viral the next day. Help an old lady over the road, you’re this weeks sweetheart. Song a song about Bobby in a box, and here we are.

Like you I’m glad I wasn’t a kid in this day and age. I enjoyed the privilege of doing whatever, mischief or otherwise, without someone having a camera pointed at my face, or in the case of these morons, pointing it actually at myself.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
Mad how the club is getting stick from its own. The club didnt ask for this incident to occur.
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It didn't that is true, but it did and their public response is what people seem annoyed with

No one is saying this didn't need internaly investigating and proportionate punishment dealt out.

What people find pathetic is the GMP action, the premier league statement, cunts like Ian Herbert tarring us as scum fans, and again the clubs contrition to every voice that likes to find fault with us.

A simple statement on the day of
"We are aware of a social media post going round and are investigating"
After warning the children involved another statememt, "After an internal investigation those involved have been reasonably punished, we find this the close of the matter"

Refering the children to GMP and apologising for it repeatedly like we were criminals, while also allowing the press confrence to be a circus of bolloclks is down the club.

If we were playing wolves this weekend this sorry episode would have be done and forgotten within days.
 
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Centurions said:
I've not read the entire thread but weren't they identified because they posted it on social media? The club can't ignore that if someone tells them. You can't honestly believe that the club deliberately didn't attempt to identify the scum who threw the pot of coins?
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City made next to no effort to identify the culprits, when they were challenged as to why the stewards didn't take action they said they ' didn't want to endanger the stewards ' same answer as to why they let the scousers out at the same time rather than holding them back at the end
 
mac said:
What charge by the police does the lad have. All for some chant for a horrible rag prick
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Sir Bobby wasn't a horrible rag prick, he was a rag a great player a gentleman and a legend within and outside of the game. He shouldn't be disrespected in any way, nor should these silly young boys be charged with anything they are guilty of being nothing more than being silly and childish they need educating.
I used to love the comparrison when I was a kid, who was better Bell Lee Summerbee or Best Law Charlton, we won our boys were better IMO.
Maybe I'm from a diffrenet era but it is very easy for me to say Bobby Charlton was a great player and may he Rest in peace.
 
urban genie said:
Are we permitted to sing ten hag is a fucking clown.

He may be offended and so it's utterance considered abuse, laughing at the state of their stadium also could be considered abusive mental torture of their collective angst
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Won't be able to tell the opposing fans to fuck off soon
 
urban genie said:
It didn't that is true, but it did and their public response is what people seem annoyed with

No one is saying this didn't need internaly investigating and proportionate punishment dealt out.

What people find pathetic is the GMP action, the premier league statememt, **** like Ian Herbert tarring us as scum fans, and again the clubs contrition to every voice that likes to find fault with us.

A simple statement on the day of
"We are aware of a social media post going round and are investigating"
After warning the children involved another statememt, "After an internal investigation those involved have been reasonably punished, we find this the close of the matter"

Refering the children to GMP and apologising for it repeatedly like we were criminals, while also allowing the press confrence to be a circus of bolloclks is down the club.

If we were playing wolves this weekend this sorry episode would have be done and forgotten within days.
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Yep, sledgehammer, nut.
 
5 Hit Gibbon said:
There were vidoes posted of dippers singing the same thing when the Queen passed away, and I don't remember them being persued with the same zeal. To be fair they can do what they like without being persued by anyone!
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You shouldn't judge your self by the standards of others. Especially LFC.

There's a reason why they are pretty much universally hated by fans of every other club in England.

Our club and our fans are simply better than them.
 
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