Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Username Required said:

The Israeli leader and Hamas are deadly enemies — and allies in opposing a 2-state solution.​


From the article, the following caption under a picture of Itamar Ben Gvir.

[A youthful Ben Gvir shows off a Cadillac hood ornament he claimed to have taken from Yitzhak Rabin's car shortly before the Israeli peacemaker was assassinated. Convicted of terrorism charges, Ben Gvir is today Israel's minister of national security.]
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The irony that a convicted terrorist is in charge of removing a terrorist group and accuses anyone who opposes of supporting terrorism
 
The blue phantom said:
Or the IDF could stop murdering folk too. Especially 3'500 children. Just a thought.
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You are painful, every single post that mentions Hamas stopping killing innocent people is you replying proclaiming the IDF should do the same, we get the fucking point. They are both (Israel Government and Hamas) insufferable cunts but you are literally making the same point multiple times per day. Is there really any need?
 
The blue phantom said:
Or the IDF could stop murdering folk too. Especially 3'500 children. Just a thought.
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Don't want so much as a graze to happen to any civilians in this conflict myself. Suggestions on how the IDF get rid of an embedded Hamas who are intent on their complete annihilation as a state and the Jews as a whole?
 
SiMCFC said:
You are painful, every single post that mentions Hamas stopping killing innocent people is you replying proclaiming the IDF should do the same, we get the fucking point. They are both (Israel Government and Hamas) insufferable cunts but you are literally making the same point multiple times per day. Is there really any need?
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Because I'm replying to the same posters doing the same thing something you conveniently left out. Now kindly jog on and bore someone else.

I'll make it clear though as I've done umpteen times. Hamas murdering terriost cunts. Likewise the IDF.
 
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Roachy said:
Don't want so much as a graze to happen to any civilians in this conflict myself. Suggestions on how the IDF get rid of an embedded Hamas who are intent on their complete annihilation as a state and the Jews as a whole?
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Not by indiscriminately firing rockets into Gaza is a start.
 
domalino said:
www.rollingstone.com

Pizzagate: Anatomy of a Fake News Scandal

The web of conspiracy theorists, Russian operatives, Trump campaigners who manufactured 'news' that Hillary Clinton ran a child-sex ring.
www.rollingstone.com www.rollingstone.com
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Nothing in this article or any other article you could find even suggests talk less of actually making the claim that Breitbart news

"launched a campaign to tell the world Hillary Clinton is having ritual sacrifices of babies in a pizza parlour"

in other words your above claim itself is an example of the kind of fake News you yourself object to but seem happy to promote when it's concerns a right leaning outlet.

For better or worse Breitbart is the Rights equivalent of Huffington Post. Just like Huffington Post at it's apex formed a hub where left wing people sourced their biased news, Breitbart provided a similar hub for Right wing people.

Anyway, i've derailed this thread enough .
 
Mon Autre said:
Did you raise this hypothetical cub in the full knowledge it would kill? But you still helped it get big and strong anyway? Because if so you should probably go to prison.
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Not to stretch the analogy to death, but in general people who raise wild animals always idiotically believe they can control it.
 
Palerider said:
I'm sure the IDF would love to meet Hamas on a battlefield well away from innocent people. Can you say the same for Hamas?
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That's just a stupid argument. IDF are one of the best equipped army in the world. Hamas are not.
Do you think the French resistance would have wanted to fight the Wehrmacht on open ground?
If you are outnumbered and outgunned you have to adopt different strategies.
 
Ducado said:
You think they can eliminate or degrade Hama and neutralise them, it would be at a cost of 1000s of innocent lives, I can tell you now the US won’t want to pay the price, for every civilian death the stronger Iran gets and more influence they have on the street, it’s a perfectly set trap set for Israel and America the message the Arab and Muslim street is getting is their lives don’t matter, if you care to read any media from around the region this the message, to them one country is trying to help defend them it’s a cauldron at the moment and it could explode
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Again, I'm going to have to disagree a bit here. I don't think the message Arabs and Muslims are getting plays a role here. Arabs and Muslims already have an unchanging negative view of the West.

So nothing you do or don't do will change that. I'm not suggesting you should go ahead and kill Palestinian Arabs indiscriminately because that's horrific. But your actions should not be influenced by what the prevailing views of the Arab man on the streets of the Levant are.

When in the las 40 years has the media around the region had a positive view of the West? The answer is never. So I'm not going to start worrying about that now.

As for Iran, I agree with you this strengthens them. I made this point soon after the original attack happened. Frankly, I believe that was the point of the attack itself. To re-ignite a conflict with Israel and twat any ongoing Israeli normalization talks with Saudi Arabia and other Mideast Countries that was on going.


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robbieh said:
That's just a stupid argument. IDF are one of the best equipped army in the world. Hamas are not.
Do you think the French resistance would have wanted to fight the Wehrmacht on open ground?
If you are outnumbered and outgunned you have to adopt different strategies.
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Adopt a different strategy like what? Get your own people bombed to fuck? Is that the Hamas strategy?
 
Palerider said:
It's frightening isn't it that an organisation whose only aim seems to be genocide has so much worldwide support. Sick.
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As far as I am aware they don’t, sympathy for the ordinary civilians who always end up getting the shitty end of the stick, that’s generally what I have found

A mother baking bread for her family is no harm to Israel yet she will be blown to pieces, an Israeli dancing at a festival doesn’t want to kill Palestinians, yet a terrorist will kill them

It’s all so avoidable if the world pays attention
 
The blue phantom said:
Because I'm replying to the same posters doing the same thing something you conveniently left out. Now kindly jog on and bore someone else.

I'll make it clear though as I've done umpteen times. Hamas murdering terriost cunts. Likewise the IDF.
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Even now rather than admitting you are posting the same inane shit you have to try to to spin it as if I've purposely not pulled someone else doing the same thing with opposing views, indirectly you are proving the point as to why this conflict can never end because you and the opposing side could and never will never accept the other point of view of the other unfortunately.

I have no horse in this race so have no bias either way and it's utterly deplorable what is happening to Palestinians right now, I can't imagine being in that situation, why we still think fighting each other over land/religion/opposing politics in 2023 I will never be able to get my head around but until people can act like adults and actually start to understand the other this will go on for the next 100 years, most likely we will have managed to wipe the human race out anyway.
 
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