Liverpool Thread - 2023/24

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As a certain Chelsea executive (subsequently fired thereafter) said to a shocked Abramovic witnessing Anfield before the 2005 CL semi...you can’t just buy this, the passion, the pedigree, the history. What he actually meant was “the class”.
 
Just to throw my tuppence worth in on the last few pages.
IMO this whole "tragedy/victim thing" is just a general carry over from the whole "woke" thing in society in general.
At work at present my employer is rolling out this anti bullying / micro aggression bullshit training which basically allows anyone to say they feel upset about the slightest thing. Now anyone and everyone can feel however they want about what another person does or says...It doesnt actually make what was said offensive as a fact.
But then thats simply a case of freedom of speech. We live in a democracy
In the cases that are at the basis of all the angst/ire/hatred can often lie genuine hurt, but then whats wrong with an apology and then moving on? I have said it before..I think.... that my club didnt do enough in the past to take ownership of the blame (based on facts) but also failed to grasp how that failure impacted others.
The whole way that this issue has been dealt with is knee jerk and short sighted. Football is different from the work place, it is tribal and about "the bragging rights", about winding up opposition fans about tryign to give your team an advantage.
Afraid to say that Liverpool as a club and fan base have to accept or reap what they have sown in this respect.
 
Assuming the song Luton sang may be repeated at the Etihad the club needs to make it clear the risks to the hundreds potentially singing it well before the game.
 
LGWIO said:
Just to throw my tuppence worth in on the last few pages.
IMO this whole "tragedy/victim thing" is just a general carry over from the whole "woke" thing in society in general.
At work at present my employer is rolling out this anti bullying / micro aggression bullshit training which basically allows anyone to say they feel upset about the slightest thing. Now anyone and everyone can feel however they want about what another person does or says...It doesnt actually make what was said offensive as a fact.
But then thats simply a case of freedom of speech. We live in a democracy
In the cases that are at the basis of all the angst/ire/hatred can often lie genuine hurt, but then whats wrong with an apology and then moving on? I have said it before..I think.... that my club didnt do enough in the past to take ownership of the blame (based on facts) but also failed to grasp how that failure impacted others.
The whole way that this issue has been dealt with is knee jerk and short sighted. Football is different from the work place, it is tribal and about "the bragging rights", about winding up opposition fans about tryign to give your team an advantage.
Afraid to say that Liverpool as a club and fan base have to accept or reap what they have sown in this respect.
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Who do you really support? Or did you escape the cult?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
The song was first sung by united fans at the time of the Suarez/Evra incident. However, that coincided with the release of the Hillsborough Independent Panel report. Had that not been the case, they would have a very weak case.

But it was, so is open to being accused of being about Hillsborough. And while they're a bunch of whingeing, self-entitled twats, it shouldn't be sung.
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I always point this out when people deny it's got anything to do with Hillsborough.

The Bluemoon thread from the day it was first sung by United fans. Everyone thinks it's about Hillsborough, everyone thinks it's disgraceful.

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Chants @ The Swamp Today

Reports were that there were some "unsavory" chants @ The Swamp today in regards to Liverpol and the Hillsboro tragedy. What exactly were they and is it getting much coverage over there???
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I'm really devastated at the thought of them being the slightest teensyest bit upset.
We should be singing:


You are beautiful, no matter what they say
Words can't bring you down
You are beautiful in every single way
Yes, words can't bring you down, oh no
So we won't bring you down today

We love you Liverpool, we do.............
 
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I always point this out when people deny it's got anything to do with Hillsborough.

The Bluemoon thread from the day it was first sung by United fans. Everyone thinks it's about Hillsborough, everyone thinks it's disgraceful.

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Chants @ The Swamp Today

Reports were that there were some "unsavory" chants @ The Swamp today in regards to Liverpol and the Hillsboro tragedy. What exactly were they and is it getting much coverage over there???
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There are 2 posts, out of 110, in that which claim it might be about Hillsborough.

Most of it is lots of posts calling both sets of fans scum, cunts etc, in general. Which happens on any thread about them really. A few discussing whether anything was chanted at all, or if it could be heard. There are a few posts not explicitly questioning the claim of the article, if you really want to cling to that. There is more than 10% in there arguing it is not about Hillsborough, so your waving of the less than 2% there is a bit pointless.
 
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