Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

inchy14 said:
Will go on forever until one side says enough is enough and they want peace and won’t retaliate regardless of what had just happened.

I can’t see that happening with the right wing nut jobs on either side.

I will ask this though, what would we do if we were constantly having our land taken? And if we fought back had our children arrested or worse killed?

I don’t want to think what it’s like in their shoes.
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Wingnuts on both sides yes.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
I don’t agree. I don’t think it is human nature to massacre and torture nearly 2,000 innocent people. Yes Hamas are evil, but that’s not a normal response. It sounds like you are trying to justify it. Attacking the army or the police I can just about understand that.

Last time I checked you don’t see ukranian soldiers marching into Russian towns and butchering thousands of innocent people. Russia took away Ukrainian land and everything people had as well. Completely different response.

Hamas as a government are doing a terrible job. The focus from both sides should be on peace, which seems impossible right now
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Normal response, 1948

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Deir Yassin massacre - Wikipedia

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Churchlawtonblue said:
BBC news tonight . Fabricating evidence is a rational conclusion from the photographic evidence.
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Ah right. Not as far as I am concerned though. I certainly think any group as shit as Hamas would do that, they clearly dont give a damn about life. Open mind for me, but yeah that whole thing from the IDF was just one sided bollocks. Not allowed to speak to the Palastinians wtf!
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Ah right. Not as far as I am concerned though. I certainly think any group as shit as Hamas would do that, they clearly dont give a damn about life. Open mind for me, but yeah that whole thing from the IDF was just one sided bollocks. Not allowed to speak to the Palastinians wtf!
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If you discovered a gun and took pictures of it. Then invited the media in and there were clearly additional weapons placed near the original one to my mind that is fabricating the evidence. Very hard to argue otherwise is it not?
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Ah right. Not as far as I am concerned though. I certainly think any group as shit as Hamas would do that, they clearly dont give a damn about life. Open mind for me, but yeah that whole thing from the IDF was just one sided bollocks. Not allowed to speak to the Palastinians wtf!
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The IDF claimed it was a one take shot too when there is clearly a jump cut or two in there
 
Vic said:
He stole it from a dead Hamas fighter. Is he now Hamas or just some random guy fighting an invader? A local defence volunteer.
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Yeah of course, a completely plausible scenario where someone finds an AK47, knows how to load it and shoots back.

In that scenario I'd stay as far away as possible, as would anyone else. So are they now Hamas? Yes.

And that's how/why laser guided bombs land on their heads.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Round and round we go.

Simple reaally, you take peoples land and they will fight back, and when they have nothing they will try to destroy you. You know this, we all know it. It needs to stop.

As I asked though, do you really think killing all Hamas will solve the problems? Or that this will go on for another generation?
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Yep simple really. There’s a difference between fighting back and killing/ torturing innocent people. You don’t seem to understand that.

When have I said killing all Hamas fighters would result in all the problems going away?
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
IDF caught red handed fabricating evidence by the BBC. Placing extra weapons in places after the initial pictures were shown. They cant even make things up without mistakes. Laughable and very disturbing at the same time.
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Someone will be along soon to tell you the BBC aren’t a reputable news agency.
 
This can’t go on, the pressure is beginning to mount on Israel, all they have done is reduced parts of Gaza to rubble and Hamas is very much in tact are they going to do the same in the south? I am not sure the West has the stomach for that, it’s a PR disaster for the west
 
Ducado said:
This can’t go on, the pressure is beginning to mount on Israel, all they have done is reduced parts of Gaza to rubble and Hamas is very much in tact are they going to do the same in the south? I am not sure the West has the stomach for that, it’s a PR disaster for the west
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The Israelis will try to do the same in the South. The Israeli Government is determined to pursue ethnic cleansing and the Americans are still backing up corrupt intelligence assessments / propaganda.
 
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